Back in our initial 2025 Gen Prime listings, we had an entry for a “Deluxe Swindle” and since then, it has been debated which continuity he would be from. Today, it seems we may finally have our answer thanks to a new addition to the lineup from TFW’s Jtprime17:
Tra Gen Prime Dlx Vortex
Product Number: G1028
“Note on the waves, there has been an adjustment. Vortex will be taking Swindle’s original place in wave 2 in the updated case assortments it seems (hence the product number reassignment). Swindle will be a later wave figure.”
This likely means both he and Swindle are their G1 incarnations and that Bruticus will be joining Menasor, Superion and Devastator in getting new combiner figures.
Let us know what you think in the ongoing discussion thread!
Vector Oracle
Part of me would be fine with a reissue of that Alpha Trion, but another part of me wants Hasbro to redeco Vector Prime into Alpha Trion’s SG counterpart. It’s one of my favorite designs for him and the SG subline is dead, so…
linkinparkirony
okay if we get an ES inspired Quintus Prime i'll buy that.
Liege Maximo has gotta be the g2 version though.
Vector Oracle
He looks like he’s bursting into song. I’m imagining him bellowing “CALLLLING ALL SQUAD CARS IN THE ARRREEEA” from the end of this skit:
Jeddostotle7
That definitely sounds like a far far better idea than Aligned's "the Arisen" nonsense where Optimus is secretly a demi-god who forgot about it (not that that idea couldn't work elsewhere, but it just feels like it made Optimus Prime waayyyyy too special)
TransformNRoll
My theory (Especially after seeing TFOne) is the 13th Prime is the Matrix of Leadership. Thus why only Primus can grant it (like in the WFC game) or reveals itself to someone who's worthy like in TFP. So basically the matrix holder IS the 13th prime.
Gzstg
I think the Primes will be their most significant incarnations.
1. Vector- Cybertron
2. Alpha Trion- with TF One being a lion I think he will be a Lio Convoy retool
3. Prima- A mix of Covenant and TF One. probably a pre tool for HOS or for one of the knights from TLK
4. Megatronus- Dreamwave
5. Alchemist- Cyberverse. as that is his most significant appearance. also, his model in TF One looks like a taller leaner version of cyberverse.
6. Solus- most likely Prime wars trilogy with a TF One's coloring.
7. Liege Maximo- a mixture of G2 and IDW. since all of his modern appearances are mostly the same.
8. Micronus- a mix of RID 2015 and TF One
9. Onyx prime- IDW with the coloring from TF one
10. Nexus- Funpub as thats the latest time he was in anything significant
11. Quintus- likely a Bontanica pre tool. a mix of TF One and Earth Spark
12. Amalgamous- a weaponizer of some kind modeled after TF One. which is his only media appearance.
13. A choice between Logos, Zeta, and Prime OP. if they make a cybertron Soundwave then its likely they will repaint it into Soundblaster which you can use for Logos. If Zeta I think he will be a combination of the WFC games and TF One. if OP then it's just the beast hunters design.
TF Hot Rod
My favorite Sentinel design I think, dethrowing DOTM possibly. Takes the colors of Animated and mixs in the sword, shoulderpads and cape of DOTM, love it
Was a strange times, still remember that moment
Autobot N
I remember when the trailer first came out there was some guy in the thread who was adamant that Sentinel in the trailers was actually Deathsaurus cause of the colors and wings and wouldn't hear any argument to the contrary until that one step changer leaked
DracoPrimal
Oh, same… I was just sayingvthe toys have had organic multi-mode-ers before.
NexMix
You gotta love Deathsaurus wings whenever they show up on a robot
Autobot N
This one is pretty good IMO
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TF Hot Rod
Probably some minor deco changes like a different shade of purple or something and maybe he includes a staff instead of a gun now. Or they somehow increased his height to be a little closer to 86 Prime instead of ER Prime.
RandyCain
I doubt they'd reissue a figure from a pulse exclusive multipack, unless it has a notable deco change or some more retooling
TF Hot Rod
We talked about it a few pages ago.
Megaprimex
So which ones do you think are the most likely that will do ?
TF Hot Rod
Why when you can do the designs that already exist and are already known.
Megaprimex
But could they make G1 deigns ?
TF Hot Rod
That's obvious, they aren't going to be the designs from the film, that's somethings SS would cover if that ever happened. But they do like their synergy which is probably what is allowing them to finally do the 13. Once we saw they were in the movie from the trailer, it became a lot more clear for why they are tackling the Primes.
I think they will want each of the 13 to be a distinct different mold from each other so that's why I don't see Vp repaint being the case. My hope anyway, but I guess we shall have to see.
Darth Gonzo
Not every in this toyline will be based off the film they have a different toyline for that.
TF Hot Rod
It's war time baby, those days for kindness are over lol.