The flow of Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts TV spots doesn’t stop! Now we have a new clip titled “Heroes Come In All Forms” with more new footage with a closer look at Nightbird and even more action scenes for your viewing pleasure.
The original 15-second TV spot can be watched here via Paramount Pictures International YouTube, but we have a 30-second HD version via UIP Argentina YouTube that you can watch it below.
Hit the discussion link and share your impressions on the 2005 Boards!
SPLIT LIP
I think that's the beauty of the seekers. Despite being copy/pastes, the fact that they have slight differences and we know that they're individuals (because of Starscream's prominence as a character and BBM showing Blitzwing as a regular guy) it makes them seem less like a horde of generic monsters and more a proper large-scale army of dudes who just kind of look the same. You can hear them talk, you can see them move and act intelligently, and their deisgns and alt modes aren't just some formless monster. They're distinct and clearly designed to the same level as every other character. The problem with the post-07 Bay 'Cons and most likely the Freezers is that they look, act, and fight like generic mindless beasts for the most part.
RazorX3000
Agreed
Rodimus Prime
It's generic cgi baddies, that I think is the real problem. While most of the baddies are now distinguishable because someone remembered that silver and black aren't the only color choices, they are too few so we have the equivalent of stormtroopers.
RazorX3000
That makes me wonder if the narrative of “ugh it’s just a big cg battle” would change if the villains were the cons and the fodder army were seekers or some other form of decepticon soldier. It’d be ironic cause that’s what we got in the Bayverse but a lot of us here are dying to have good con representation again
SPLIT LIP
Honestly the BBM Seekers were such a perfect design for generic bad guys. Tetrajet Seekers would've been perfect for the large scale final battle in this movie. I hope if the 'Cons are brought back in the future that design returns along with them.
Music
Hell, even the movie before gave the bad guys some color—including the fodders.
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SPLIT LIP
TBF those are deliberately generic fodder guys surrounding Nightbird. At least she and Battletrap have some colour on top of being dark. (as villains tend to be)
In fact the Autobots have quite a nice variety of colours, it's Scourge and the Maximals having such bland decoes that really bites. They're very prominent characters and the main villain being so visually drab is disappointing. I don't mind him being dark, but you can be dark without being boring. RID Scourge was a dark colourscheme yet managed to have some colour and visual interest to his deco.
Novaburnhilde
"Who you callin' pinhead?"
But for real it'll never cease to floor me how people looked at something like this.
And thought to themselves: "You know what would make this better? If all the characters were grey / black / brown!"
HotShotPrime
This shot of Nightbird looks awesome! but her face is kinda goofy…
SPLIT LIP
What? "Let's end this" could literally mean destroying the Transwarp key for all we know. It is not even close to the same.
Again, what?
Every Beast wars character has multiple colours on their design. That's the point. They have their animal fur/hide colouring, plus a more vibrant colour that appears in robot mode. The arguable exceptions would be Megs and Terrorsaur, but they still have rather contrasting and elaborate decoes in the show that avoid looking monochromatic. (aided by the difference in texture and shades, like Megs's purple striped skin and richer metallic purple robot parts) Certainly the Maximals in ROTB have far less colour than their original BW versions.
But yes, phrasing is just important as meaning. It's what gives characters their personality. Three characters could all say the same exact thing, but the way they say it is what separates them. This is writing 101.
BB Shockwave
So I see the Bayformer aesthetics still remain… those weird robots look like the appliance-cons, enlarged.
Nightbird looks badass. I wish her toy was better.
TheSoundwave
They don't really mean the same thing. The biggest difference is that "one shall stand, one shall fall" refers to defeating one single opponent. And it doesn't even have to refer to killing. The same phrase could be used to mean 'drive him away' or 'make him surrender'. Whereas "we will kill them all" is referring to multiple opponents, and explicitly stating that they're going to die.
Also, even if they did mean the exact same thing wording is important. Like, "Yo what's up Luke, I'm your pops" basically means the same thing as "Luke, I am your father", but one sounds appropriate for Vader and the other doesn't.
Now, I personally like the movieverse and even like most aspects of Bayverse Optimus, but I do think that line doesn't really sound like something Optimus would say. If you told me someone in a Transformers movie said that without any other context, I'd probably assume it was Megatron.
Sovietbot
I don't see a difference.
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20thc3nturybl003s
Perhaps David did some scratch dialogue for Primal before Primal was cast.
dragon
So prime says let’s end this to we will kill them all means same thing different way of wording it , one shall stand one shall fall is less violent way of it but still means same one of us live and other dies
Beast wars season have monochromatic crap are you putting beast wars season 1 and transformers prime in same level as movies it’s make transformers look more realistic less cartoon how many people in real world saw red gorilla I have not do they exist without image editing
SPLIT LIP
How can you tell? None of Primal’s dialogue has sounded like Perlman anyway.
PrimeBot
Primal ripping Scorponok heads reminds of GvK Kong ripping MechaGodzilla head
Dinocon93
Can’t wait for the day when AI can be used to add color for most movies that keep pulling this monochromatic crap.
20thc3nturybl003s
Even though they're an army of cannon fodder generics, it's kinda cool how the Freezers have different heads and arms to differentiate them.
Jazz210
In the bottom pic I hate the way his right shoulder is leaning in like it’s gonna fall off
It’s like that is some promo shots as well