Transformers R.E.D. Prime Starscream First Look

Fc203

Nope but pulse did last year. I doubt they'll show up at walmart at this point since the available on entertainment earth at the moment.

yeah, I saw it on Entertainment Earth but they only seem to be selling the wave by the case. Might have to just try to sell the other 3 figures.

krayzie

Did wave 7 of R.E.D. ever end up at Walmart?

Nope but pulse did last year. I doubt they'll show up at walmart at this point since the available on entertainment earth at the moment.

Mimmers

Word. I still believe there genuinely is a market for a retail line of non-transforming Transformers figures, but to be truly successful they'd need to a few criteria:
1. Have some semblance of internal scale, so that Bumblebee doesn't look like Lennie from Of Mice and Men next to Optimus Prime
2. Scale with contemporary Generations figures, so mainline collectors would also have an incentive to collect them to fill in for characters (for example, having a non-transforming G1 Megatron that's the same size as Siege Megatron)
3. Do characters who actually make sense to do non-transforming figures of, whether due to the lack of an official alt mode or simply because their design would be too complex to do a proper transforming figure (Action Masters, Alpha Trion, Transmutate etc.)
4. Make sure the finished product is of good quality, with nice paint jobs, sculpting and materials used so that general action figure collectors would be on board for the line

Unfortunately RED failed at every single one of these criteria, and while having new versions of the Prime designs to go with the Legacy updates could have been a nice selling point to some the line failed to appeal to most people and I for one was really confused as to who the target audience for the line was even supposed to be.

I genuinely believe someone had deliberately set R.E.D. up to fail.
I know Hasbro does questionable things but I refuse to believe they are that stupid enough to release the line as it was.

linkinparkirony

RED was a good idea, but the execution/quality was bad.

Word. I still believe there genuinely is a market for a retail line of non-transforming Transformers figures, but to be truly successful they'd need to fill a few criteria:
1. Have some semblance of internal scale, so that Bumblebee doesn't look like Lennie from Of Mice and Men next to Optimus Prime
2. Scale with contemporary Generations figures, so mainline collectors would also have an incentive to collect them to fill in for characters (for example, having a non-transforming G1 Megatron that's the same size as Siege Megatron)
3. Do characters who actually make sense to do non-transforming figures of, whether due to the lack of an official alt mode or simply because their design would be too complex to do a proper transforming figure (Action Masters, Alpha Trion, Transmutate etc.)
4. Make sure the finished product is of good quality, with nice paint jobs, sculpting and materials used so that general action figure collectors would be on board for the line

Unfortunately RED failed at every single one of these criteria, and while having new versions of the Prime designs to go with the Legacy updates could have been a nice selling point to some the line failed to appeal to most people and I for one was really confused as to who the target audience for the line was even supposed to be.

Nem

Completely forgot about this thing, did it ever even come out? Everything from this period of factory leaks is already well out by now besides this I think?

I think Hasbro forgot too.

Fc203

I think it's safe to assume that this line is dead. We haven't gotten a new releases this year or reveals, yup dead.

RED was a good idea, but the execution/quality was bad.

Sunst0rm

But that doesn't seem to be a problem here in R.E.D. We've had Prime, G1 and Beast Wars (I think).

That would be because it’s a different design team than the SS and Legacy team.

Sunst0rm

Well, we haven't had as much as we got for Prime and Armada, but it's true.

Definitely and hopefully it’s the start of more like those two

Sunst0rm

And I hope that means Animated will eventually permeate this line too.

Would be interesting if it did.

Sunst0rm

I guess you are right, actually, some designs nowadays are kind of more complex. Then I have no idea why Hasbro seems to ignore Animated. TF Hot Rod seems to know.

I know nothing tbh but the reason as with all this is simple: unified aesthetic. They want everything in the line to have a coherent design style. Reason the UT is unchanged is the style is very similar and complements the G1/WFC styling they have going. So much Armada reused G1 animation models in the show. As Evolution has shown they heard out feedback about wanting a balance of the styles.

Ignoring TFA would mean they aren't doing anything with it, which is what it was little till this year. And as a TFA kid I'm glad they have remembered it exists even if Bee could have came out a bit better like Prowl.

VVa

The engineering of the original TFA toyline was as simple as the Unicron Trilogy.
It's not as complicated a design philosophy as you think it is.

I guess you are right, actually, some designs nowadays are kind of more complex. Then I have no idea why Hasbro seems to ignore Animated. TF Hot Rod seems to know.

Sunst0rm

Well, considering the whole "consistent" philosophy on the Legacy line, there is an excuse to why they can't make accurate Animated figures there. Is it a shitty excuse? Yes. Is it convenient for G1 fans? Yes. Are Armada fans lucky because those designs look more in line with G1? Yes.

I believe Hasbro is just scared of Animated because the designs and engineering are more intricate than the average G1 style toy. It would come across as to expensive and Hasbro doesn't want that.

The engineering of the original TFA toyline was as simple as the Unicron Trilogy.
It's not as complicated a design philosophy as you think it is.