Newage Toys, via their Weibo account, have shared images of the color prototype of their NA H50 Scott (Legends Scale G1 Hound).
This impressive cartoon-accurate rendition of G1 Hound for the Legends scale is just 7.6 cm tall. According to the information shared, it will be fully painted, with die-cast parts and several extra accessories including Ravage’s cage and an extra H54 Frankenstein limb with all pre-orders.
See all the mirrored images after the jump and then sound off on the 2005 Boards!
Oh, I know you weren’t being insulting— I actually thought your comment was amusing and just thought I’d be a smartass in reply. Sorry, I don’t convey connotation very well in text.
The problem— if one even considers it a “problem”— with the franchise story is that it simply does a poor job at adapting disparate elements of a toy line into a cohesive fiction. I only really blame Sunbow for popularizing those decisions— it’s easier to lump together the things I dislike about G1 under a collective name.
Hasbro was tasked with bringing together toys from Diaclone, Micro Change, and Mysterians lines (among others) into a weekly 20-minute Saturday-morning commercial. Those toys had different scales, styles, and intentions. The fiction that was created broke some very elementary physical laws, but it was a kids’ show designed to sell toys, so no one cared. Most kids certainly didn’t care. I did, however, and still do.
So, my preferences are only “toy” because I find the “toon” interpretation generally unappealing. My idea of a good Transformer design starts with a solid alt-mode and builds a robot from it— not the other way around. That means the Sunbow scaling chart is worthless to me. Bumblebee is what the VW Type 1 physically allows him to be. That is probably larger than what Hound’s military Jeep allows him to be— and that’s exactly how I want it.
Lol, I’ve given up on understanding people’s collecting preferences, cuz it can get out there and convoluted and once you think you understand, then something else comes out and once again you’re scratching your head.
I’m not trying to insult you in anyway. If anything I’m just trying to understand your preference. Because you usually say I don’t like Sunbow because of these reasons. I just assumed you like the whole toy experience. Like the toy, bio and tech specs. When it’s just the toy itself and it seems like your issue with the franchises story as a whole starts with Hasbro’s choices and not Sunbow. Though Sunbow definitely simplified the looks of the bots but the character of the bots themselves is mostly tied to Hasbro choices.
Again not insulting you or telling you the way you collect is wrong. There is no wrong way and I get liking the G1 toy look. There is just something the toy has that the toon doesn’t like a sense of realism.
Thank you. I wasn't aware MFT had done him. No idea how I missed it. And thank you for the correction on the smallest one.
MFT, I think
Largest is Mechanics Studio / MFT Legends+: MFT MS-13 Detective – Legends+ Hound
Smallest should be Justoys WST: Justoys Robots Inspector Willy (WST G1 Hound)
Edit: Referring to the Bot mode comparison.
I know Iron Factory, Magic Square, New Age, and G1, but I can't place the largest one.
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Time to reel it in. People have opinions, it happens. Move on.
I’m glad you’ve straightened me out on my Transformers preferences. Next time I’m undecided on an opinion I wish to share here, I’ll run it through you first in a PM so you can edit it for accuracy.
Seriously, I just think there were a lot of illogical work-arounds in the fiction that arise from the fact that no one really cared back when Transformers began— they were just trying to create a story good enough to sell toys, and now people just shrug and accept inconsistencies as lore. I’m not the type of person that accepts things “just because”.
And yes, I do generally prefer toy over toon, but usually that’s just the aesthetic. I like fiction, but I like it to have some rational basis and substance. I can’t completely discard logic just for the sake of entertainment. And my TF head canon will always take precedence over any official depiction.
But you always say I like it like it was with the toys. Where really you kinda don’t, you like it as the head canon you made as a kid.
Not saying that’s wrong but I don’t necessarily see it as a I prefer toy over toon when it comes to the lore of the character. You just like transforming toys.
I didn’t say it was wrong to see it that way— the franchise has obviously embraced the idea. I just don’t like it, and for very logical reasons.
The Toy bio is the core reason why Bumblebee is said to be really small compared to all other Autobots. It’s in all G1 media Toy, Toon and Comic that Bee should be that small compared to everyone else. He might have been at the legends price point back then but that was his intended size for toy lore scale too. Sunbow just took inspiration from Bob Budiansky bio work for Hasbro that he made when he got the toys in hand.
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Aspects of the franchise that I see as unfortunate flaws.
I can completely respect your view— even if I wholly disagree with it— because your opinions are devoid of a self-righteous tone. You’re just saying “this is what I like and don’t like” rather than “this is right and this is wrong”. I totally respect that.
Exactly. You get it!
The G1 toy Bumblebee and the other mini-bots were essentially what “legends” or “core” toys are today. They were made at a different (and deformed) scale, but rather than translating them into the scale of the other toys when making the cartoon, the artists simply kept them the same.
If alt mode scaling was consistent, Bumblebee would be bigger than Wheeljack and Hound. Gears and Huffer would be bigger than Trailbreaker, and Ironhide and Ratchet would be considerably smaller bots.
I realize that for many fans, the (unrealistically skewed) Sunbow size chart is the gospel. I haven’t liked it since the very beginning, because it never made any sense.
cmon show z!! release him!!
But then Bumblebee wouldnt be any shorter than a regular car bot. A Beetle is not really a small car
I don't mind the fake parts at all. For me it's bot character first, good proportions, good articulation, in relative botmode scale, sunbow accurate and then alt mode and altmode scale.
If fake parts, parts forming or whatever other 'cheats' are needed to achieve this, so be it. G1 always had parts forming so I don't mind that at all. The fake parts can be a bit meh, but in the end I display all figures in bot mode so I really want a good looking bot.
I think I have less tolerance for fake parts on an expensive masterpiece toy than on a legend-class figure. With engineering technology what it is these days, the producers of larger figures have no excuse for fake parts. If parts change size between bot and alt mode, then by all means make them collapsible or something.
But with legends stuff, I dunno, here’s a figure that’s only a few cm tall, there’s only so many hinges and panels you can have. I have way more sympathy for the fake chest on NA Bumblebee than I do for the one on FT Cliffjumper, for example.
I don't like faux parts but I will accept them if the alternative is a compromised bot or alt mode. Sunstreaker just can't be done right without faux parts – you'd either end up with a huge chest in bot mode or a tiny roof and windows in alt mode. I agree with @Zentropy that I appreciate how the MP used the roof as his bot mode chest, just flipped around and I also like how MP-44 and MS-02 use Optimus' windows flipped around so they're only semi-faux. I really didn't like MP-52's fake chest, especially since Starscream doesn't really need it to look right (though even DS-01 faked parts of his chest cockpit but at least most of it was real).
Transformers is robots first, their alt mode is just a disguise and mass shifting is a thing.