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Hanzkaz

It's not a purple griffin but I'll take it
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T-Hybrid

All I care about is if they're going to repaint/retool this badboy as the Masquerade before it's all said and done.

Do you mean like, them but NOT in disguise?

Personally I'm mostly hoping for some good hand articulation and the ability to stand in pose

Ramberk Magnus

To each their own. I skipped all of the combiners in CW because I just wasn’t a fan of how they got implemented. I know folks don’t care for how these new combiner(s) will be implanted but again, to each their own.

I think it varies by combiner to combiner. It was wise to start with Menasor, as his Combiner Wars build was among the weakest. But I’d be unlikely to buy a Superion in this line as CW Superion is a heck of a figure, especially if you got a hold of the Unite Warriors build or the limited release Quickslinger figure.

Bruticus is my favorite combiner. I’ve bought him over and over, so I may protest double dipping on him but I’m likely to do so, especially if we get a decent Brawl (he’s often the weakest figure). But his Combiner Wars build is really great and if we don’t get a Legacy build, I won’t complain.

PloverNutter

That last part is weird, makes me think he is going to have some pretty thin legs. Still excited for Menasor, now just cautious about what it looks like. Ok Hasbro managed to get one reveal without any leaked images/copies, lets go back to the video reviews being up a month before the figure is revealed.

Still be a thicker leg than just the car transformered into a leg without the frame.

denebian

While they copied some of what Apollux said, they left out or reworded some. He later clarified his leg comment:

It sounds like the hollow rectangle is just an empty frame and the car roof is visible on one side and the car underside is visible on the other side of the frame.

That's a good example of why I never go to them for news. The source is here, anyway, but to twist it and change it and modify it like that is purely unprofessional.
As for Menasor… I think that leg design gives the best of both worlds. It's animation accurate as in they snap onto him, and it's toy accurate as they more or less make up the leg.
I can't wait to see the final pics (or even close to it) but man…it's going to be a difficult wait. =\

While they copied some of what Apollux said, they left out or reworded some. He later clarified his leg comment:

Apollux

I've only seen an image of Wild Rider plugged in as the leg so can't tell if they can scramble.

I don't know if they rip in half, but they can transform when combined with the arm skeleton to give the appearance of an upper/lower arm.

I'm going to be honest it looks like there's a fairly decent amount of parts-forming to make the torso/limb skeleton work.

Oh and before I forget the leg skeleton pieces are shaped like a hollow rectangle, so it looks like the underside of the cars smooshes through to fill in the lower leg. So they are integral to the combiner.

It sounds like the hollow rectangle is just an empty frame and the car roof is visible on one side and the car underside is visible on the other side of the frame.

Ramberk Magnus

To each their own. I skipped all of the combiners in CW because I just wasn’t a fan of how they got implemented. I know folks don’t care for how these new combiner(s) will be implanted but again, to each their own.

There's definitely a place at the table for both. In my example, I'll be holding on to my Combiner Wars figures and buying the new Legacy combiners. Both serve different purposes that fill certain niches in my collection. I'd just like fans to understand they shouldn't be dismissive to either purpose – because there's going to be someone out there whose purpose it serves either way.

PloverNutter

Oh I get that but I think it is going to be impossible to get cartoon accuracy while retaining the toy gimmicks completely. The entire Prime Wars trilogy was about placing the emphasis on the gimmicks and now the designers are going for accuracy/articulation. I would say it would be neat if after the car bots are attached to the Menasor skeleton that the limbs can detach all together and swapped between torso bots. They would not be able to be any limb but you could at least mix up the combiners still. Granted I am not sure if the designers would even bother doing this as it would eat up the budget for basically a person to do it once and then go back to normal configuration.

As for a modern Diaclone Ironhide/Ratchet mech I don't see them doing a straight version of that anytime soon but I could see them making that a third mode of those future figures as a homage to the toy.

I don't put anything past Hasbro anymore.

PloverNutter

The scrambling gimmick makes sense when that year's toyline has multiple combiner teams such as Scramble City and CW/UW. That way if a kid isn't able to complete a whole team due to availability or parents not understanding how the toys work then the kid can still make a combiner instead of having 3 leg bots and only 1 arm bot by accident and can't make a combiner. When there is only one combiner in the line it is probably better from a design standpoint that each limb only have 1 combined mode form. They even put on the packaging "# of 5" to help kids and parents know which ones they need to complete Menasor.

Plus from an adult collector standpoint, do you have any of the CW combiners on display with mixed up teams? Most adult collectors put them in the exact formation the combiners were in when on the TV show, which didn't ever use the scramble aspect. If most people are only ever going to want Brawl as a left leg and Blastoff as the right arm it makes it easier for the designers to just design them to turn into only that.

Some us collectors appreciate replication of the old gimmicks, regardless of cartoon accuracy. It's as simple as that.

I'm still hoping we eventually get a toy accurate Ironhide and Ratchet with modern articulation, clown face seat head in the windshield and all. The closest we have so far is 2005 Botcon editions.