Artist Ken Christiansen has unveiled a new piece of concept art via his Facebook account. This time we have the War For Cybertron: Siege Spinister.
Here we a very interesting look at the popular Deluxe class Spinister original concept. While there were not big changes in the final product, we see the original art looks more angular, like a G1 toy. Here you are some Ken Christiansen comments:
Here’s the concept art for 2019’s Transformers War for Cybertron : Siege Spinister Figure, bot and alt modes.
Super fun to work on the figure, you can see some things were changed in the course of development, notably the lower legs. I love him, he came out great. Really well articulated too!
You can check out the mirrored images after the jump, and then sound off on the 2005 Boards!
drmick
I've been scrutinizing these diagrams for a few days and have come to the conclusion that the half cockpit legs drawn here cannot become the full cockpit at all on the toy as it is shown.
It would be possible, with a different transformation sequence to have half cockpit legs, just like the Combiner Wars toys' legs, but that isn't what is shown here, it would need different hips and leg parts.
So these new pics are definitely faulty from a design point of view. But the paranoid bit of me wonders if they were deliberately made faulty for the purposes of release to the public. The bit they wanted us to see was the legs, and the head. But that they held back a different transformation sequence and it's relevant parts.
Beowulfx
They even draw in the hollow legs and arms where they cut corners in quality.
drmick
Pretty sure it came down choosing between the G1 toy/character model vs the box art. Both were options, probably of similar cost, pretty far into the design process, until such time that the trigger needed pulled.
FWIW I prefer what we got.
Autovolt 127
I'm genuinely amazed the cockpit legs ended up happening the way they are, you'd think this would've been more simple but who knows. I'm curious on the story behind this change, I hope John Warden tells us one day.
Rated X
Agreed. I just feel if either leg could be the cockpit that would make the the underside cockpit more justified similar to a WWII bomber type belly cockpit. But knowing its just there for symmetry bugs the shit out of me. And if they had gone with a split cockpit like these pics, why would that have been a bad thing ?
trence5
More than likely, I'd bet you'd be right.
Honestly the only gripe – nitpick actually – is I wish there as a way that the propellers did stick so far above. Other than that I'm glad he got an update.
T-Hybrid
I'd assume some variation of a hidden cockpit is how an MP Spinister would be executed.
trence5
Cockpit underneath is laughable but all in all I think this figure turned out very well.
drmick
To me it looks like they had to choose a lower leg design that either leaned towards the character model , or the box-art. Either way we wee always getting one leg under the tail/body of the helicopter.
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Lazerwave
I wonder if they actually had this before the fan poll.
Oneiros
Yeah, it's a fun figure to mess around with but I'm surprised the fake cockpit underneath doesn't bug people more. It's unnecessary, and there should have been a split or alternate approach to the other leg. For me it totally breaks any realism for the alt-mode.
malcontentman
I love it when a figure is relased and actually looks like the concept art that inspired it. Many times they make a lot of concesions to save money on parts or plastic and the little special details of the greatness of the concept get lost. Spinister looks pretty much on for one.
onsenboss
To me, his face looks like evil Cheetor with mask.
RoboW4rrior298
Do we know if there are any other concepts of other figures? I’d love to see the ones for Springer and “Jetfire” especially.
Calidus
It looks like in the third picture of bot mode, that one of the legs is a full cockpit for some reason
Dinobot Snarl
What a lot of people aren't appreciating is that they used more plastic to make this version of Spinister and fully enclosed the leg.
Protostar
I dunno, looks like some techno pineapple to me
fschuler
And I just realized how much his head looks like Optimus…
cloudballoon
Imagine how wide the cockpit will be in copter mode even if the engineers pulled it off. Just can\'t look good in physical form. I think the actual toy is near perfection as it is… fun transformation, great looking modes, awesome articulations, what more can we want? Fake cockpit tugged under the copter be damned I say!
Fallout
plot twist: the fake cockpit would've split into the legs while the real cockpit partsforms ala cliffjumper