Attention Masterpiece collectors! A listing in BigBadToystore got our attention since it’s about a possible Masterpiece MP-38+ Burning Convoy.
What is this about? Optimus Primal made a special appearance in the Japanese exclusive Beast Wars II Movie where he teamed up with Lio Convoy. Both got power-up versions, with Optimus Primal (named Convoy in Japan) now in vibrant red colors. This special red version was also released as a figure using the original Optimus Primal mold in 1998 in Japan, and then using the Robot Masters Optimus Primal mold in 2004.
The new listing and name may suggest that a red redeco of the Masterpiece Optimus Primal mold is in the works. It also indicates an expected release date on March 2020. As usual, take this with a grain of salt until we get an official confirmation.
In the mean time, you can sound off your impressions on the ongoing discussion on the 2005 Boards!
Kaynowa
100% misread and don't know a thing about Flash (or Beast Wars II as a whole) to second guess myself. My bad
IgnikaMarcus
Again, if that were the case, Flash Lio Convoy's head would be mostly blue, or green, since that what you get when you throw yellow into the mix.
But it's gold.
Kaynowa
I think that has to do with the color of the aura. Put a white/slight yellow filter over blue, you get mostly blue. Put a red filter over blue, you get nearly black.
JustineBW
Same thoughts!
Is there a way that theyll listen to us? hahaha. I mean ill get this if they change the color of the Head. I dont want to give effort and have it painted.
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JustineBW
It really wouldve been better if they made his head gold.
blaine71274
That went from rumor to fact in a hurry. But in my experience here, the rumors are usually true on this forum.
Trip
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This repaint would be cool too.
IgnikaMarcus
Gonna piggyback off of Bob 121 and add that if that were truly the case, Flash Lio Convoy's head would've been drawn to reflect such an effect as well, since both him and Primal have blue heads.
But as Flash, his head is gold.
Bob 121
Well how many people thought we would never get BW MPs? How many people thought we would never get BW2 MPs? How many people thought we would never get Bayformer MPs? I would say the day we get an MP combiner, literally anything is up for grabs.
geekatron prime
Believe me, I've have been waiting for any kind of toy (MP or otherwise) of Majin Zarak ever since I saw him in the BWII movie. My sarcasm is actually a sad truth that we will probably never see him in any kind of toy form. If they ever did, it would be a great day of rejoicing for Majin Zarak's fans.
Bob 121
You say that sarcastically but I seriously have been waiting for an MP figure to hit the size of the haslab Unicron. I know it probably won't ever happen as one figure, but I still want something massive with MP quality
Max Rawhide
I think that was a custom (I remember seeing a custom white Primal) since to my knowledge there was no white version released.
Surprising really, because there have been many releases of the original Ultra Primal: regular, crystal (just clear), burning (clear red), grey (grey parts instead of black), Universe, 10th anniversary show accurate version with proper face (both Hasbro and TT), another version in show accurate colours but with faceplate, Universe version, and three Lucky Draw versions: chrome gold, (Bom Bom) blue (black parts replaced with blue), amd red (red instead of black). Have most of them, save for the Legends and of course the Lucky Draw version — and especially the blue and red Lucky Draw I would love to have (for a lot less money than the going price).
(There have also been prototypes for sale on e-bay of which the universe version is the most interesting: it's more mustard colour instad of brown, with brighter green and a greenish shade of yellow for the swords/missiles.)
geekatron prime
Already have MP-38, and I'm planning to get MP-48. Will leave those two in bot mode shaking hands. If/when Tak/Tom release a Flash Lio-Convoy to go with this Burning Convoy, will leave both in beast mode with MP-38+ riding MP-48+(guessing the #
here) into battle like in the movie.
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Then a MP in scale version of Majin Zarak for them to square off against.
Bob 121
If that was the case we wouldn't have all these newer MPs bending over backwards to match what was drawn instead of what was intended. It's ridiculous the lengths they'll go to so that we can get perfect screen accuracies that's aren't even consistent on the show. I can't name one design element of the new MPs that should be taken as an interpretive piece instead of what we saw in some cheap animation frame more than not.
Prime of Shadows
Once I saw the digi with a different color head, I realized it’s not the head that was bothering me, it’s his proportions. That may be something that I’ll get over when I pick up MP-38.
KABAR432
About the grey head – go back to page 11 and check the screenshots I posted for yourself – but could it be that Takara is imagining what the head would have looked like without the animation glow?
His head was bright blue before powering up, but when he was powered up he had a glowing aura around him. So take the glowing aura away – because the toy can't do that – and are we left with that same blue head? It does have a blue tint to it but it's washed out/grey in the animation.
At this point I'm straight up not liking the gold lips – I'll never display that head – but the blue noggin I'm unsure on. Maybe it should be muted? Maybe it shouldn't? It's hard to say.
It's worth noting in one frame he had a gold faceplate and in another you can see beast mode flame detail/arm flame detail. So I'm just going to chalk those up to cel animation errors.
Afterburner
I think he looks really sharp. Sometimes less is more. He channels the animation perfectly to me. Not sure if I will ever own him, but I definitely wouldn't mind.
Paxtin
For some reason, when I looked at the face, the first thing I thought of was this guy:
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That's not a knock on the figure…Just a random thought really…
Bob 121
Thankfully we have the Tamashii flames, but I think some extra accessories would have made a world of difference. Stuff like what we got with 18+ for blast effects, and how 19+ has the smoke effects. If they weren't planning on developing new flame tampos, putting hardly ANY paint on this guy, or remolding some limbs to include sculpted flames (this would've been so sick), they should have done this release before going all out with the other "+" versions. It makes this one looks so goddamn lazy.
That said I hope he's still salvageable. Either with the flame effect pieces or something else. He's either going to look extremely underwhelming next to the Lio Convoy repaint, or that repaint will join this one in being a massive "what the hell" release.
Raiyuki
More bare than I expected but still really happy with what I see. I was worried they might NOT do him in clear plastic but thankfully they ended up doing so. Definitely gonna get this as it's what I was hoping we'd get for a redeco anyway. If we were to get a Universe based deco I'd be solid and set.