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Focksbot
I suppose fan communities really subdivide into smaller communities, some of which are more centered on creative engagement and play, while others are more into prostrating themselves before the corporate machine or worshiping certain individuals.
You also have, on this site, a certain degree of hate idolising – this weird thing where Roberts is obviously so much more central and important to people who dislike his work than those who do, because the real kick they get out of being a franchise fan is complaining all the time. This is much worse in computer game communities, where people seem to hate-purchase shitty AAA games in huge numbers just so that they can rage against the massive soulless corporations whose wallets they're lining.
pluto
I definitely think that has something to do with it, but do remember that scifi pulp magazines drew very few distinctions between authors and readers, as the letters to the editor pages bore out.
Starscream Gaga
I think another aspect is how accesible authors are nowadays. Back then you'd hear from them in the occasional interview or such whilst today any fan can ask a question directly to them on twitter and they can answer (or in some cases, state without any prompting) what their Authroial Intent was.
pluto
This is a delightful assertion, and certainly bears out in this community, but i maybe wouldnt go so far as to say that it applies to fan communities per se. Rather i’d see it as one of the aesthetic and perhaps epistemological functions of late capitalism. For instance, early fan communities (from the turn of the century to the 60s say) were performing quite a lot of interventionary practices. By which i mean basically anyone reading weird tales at the time, flowing into scifi pulps, and then say the star trek fandom which was very interventionary and very radically so.
However since then, fan communities have become increasingly reactionary, conservative, and self loathing. The constant derision aimed at tumblr and deviant art is a great example of this; the artificial division between the amateur (whose work is not yet commodity and therefore without worth) and the expert (whose work has worth only vis a vis its commodity value). All that is really left to the fan community is to “vote with the wallet,” or rather judge with the wallet. Which is to say, the aesthetic now has a dollar value because it has been robbed of everything else.
G1Prowl
Not all of them. Some, but not all. I'll leave it to others to postulate percentages.
Starscream Gaga
I mean, J.K. Rowling is the probably best recent example with her now famous "Voldemort's pet snake was always intended to be a Korean Lady transformed into a snake despite that contradicting what happened in the books"… to say nothing of the Werewolf AIDs thing. It's been her that's really gotten the ball rolling again for a lot of the current "Death of the Author" VS "Authorial Intent" conversations.
The conversation there stems on what's important when a much beloved piece of work is beginning to be lessened by a stream of retcons and EU nonsense from an author that, for whatever reason, feels the odd need to insist that the new content is not things she recently thought of (when it clearly is) rather than portraying it as what it is.
Oh, the irony again. Get a mirror if you can stand looking at yourself.
NanakoPreame
So, can we safety say that mtmte fans are really toxic and annoying?
Majestic Senzu
I really hate to butt in on this debate but I'm curious about this list of lying authors. Which authors are you referring to here?
pluto
What you hear is the supersonic sound of Prowl dodging out of the way to miss the point.
In any case, what was this topic about again? Oh yeah, Froid's back (cool i guess?) and despite the toy-accurate stylings of the series so far, Quake isn't the bisho hottie we all expected
I refuse to let the latter point go.
Starscream Gaga
That's ironic on two counts given your last few posts and the fact that you brought it up.
G1Prowl
Since it gets brought up TO THIS DAY by people deriding it, I'd say you're wrong. Whatever, though. I'll simply refuse to debate since you can't see past your own sense of superiority.
pluto
Yuck, what a reach. Get over it. Trans folks dont even give a shit about this any more, their minds are pretty well made up. The only people still carrying on about it is… yeah wow the kind of people still unsure of highschool lit lessons.
G1Prowl
What do you expect? There are people on this site that think Spotlight: Arcee isn't a PTSD story.
Focksbot
We can all see what happened on this thread. First you said: "Well, even when he used characters that weren't invented whole sale, he'd warp their personalities or completely change them to be whatever he wanted."
This is obviously a reference to Roberts introducing different takes on older franchise characters, eg. Star Saber, Deathsaurus. I said there wasn't a problem there, and there isn't.
Then you came out with a completely different statement: "If you have to alter an already established character's personality without giving them a reason to change, also known as a character arc, that is just bad writing."
You've now switched to accusing Roberts of altering characters mid-story without any rationale, and I said: nope, didn't happen. Every character that was in circulation before Roberts got his hands on them was given a pretty good impetus to change their outlook as a result of the war ending and a new phase of their life beginning.
It's funny, y'know – I'm used to getting accused of stubbornly refusing to change my opinion. This is the first time anyone's had to reach as far as suggesting I've secretly changed my opinion between takes and hoped no one would notice.
Rodimus Prime
I understand. Your opinion has never changed, only our understanding of it. In related news, we're at war with East Asia, and have always been at war with them.
Focksbot
I agree with all of this and I've always agreed with all of this. If you think I've changed my position then it's because you've misunderstood it. I've always maintained that the best interpretation is the one that fits, but that there may be more than one that does the job.
Rodimus Prime
A lot of people these days abuse the heck out of the concept. I have not read all of Foch's posts here, so I don’t know if he's changing his stance on something once again, but he has argued for the idea that the audience's interpretation of the story is far more valid than the author's in the past. DotA is useful, but not when you use it to ignore what the actual meaning is, and twist everything that the author wrote through a tinted lense to get a message that is 180° from the original.
BTW, I am sure that the author and work mentioned before was Ray Bradbury and Fahrenheit 451, but it has actually happened quite a few times.
Children's author Pat Thomson: 'I failed the test set on my own book'
Stranger than fiction: Ian McEwan’s son got a C in an A-level essay about one of his father’s books
Also, DotA is not a universal truth in academia. There's plenty of critics who oppose it, or at least don't agree with the way it has been applied.
Joey Slick
You of made a great point.
Thundershot
Ok this thread sucks now debating authors….
pluto
Ahahhahaha, holy shit this thread. The list of authors who have flat out lied about the content of their works is all the evidence you need that authors are not greater authorities on their work than anyone else with half a brain.
After this debate of well trodden and settled theories i fully expect half of the tfw commentariat to come out in support of flat earth theories.