Transformers Prime Wars Trilogy Punch / Counterpunch Shoulder Fix

Okay hang, I'm coming into this thread for the last time with a public warning: keep it civil.

I've changed the title of the thread to reflect that it's a "modification" – as the discussion here mostly leans towards this definitely being a modification and only "possibly" fixing something. Those terms are pretty interchangeable in our forum here, but I can see that being a little more accurate given the circumstances.

Feel free to continue discussing the topics that this subject permits, but do NOT start any more uncivil arguments about anything. If you can't state your points in a respectful manner with other members, they're simply either not worth stating or simply worth stating in other ways.

So I'm just going to chime in that my figure would not transform at all before this mod. I could not get the shoulders to lock in in vehicle mode at all. So basically I don't see any way this isn't an assembly error

PrimalFury

Has anyone contacted Hasbro about this? We need an official statement. I'd like to think that someone here had the forethought to send a respectfull email to Hasbro inquiring about this shoulder issue in attempt's to clear up all this he said she saI'd etc

I seriously doubt anyone remains at Hasbro that can give us any answers looks like a massive staff swap out has been happening again. The last time was Mid way thru Titans Return line, Trypticon felt the fury of that staff change.
Product Design and Development

Still dose not counter the build in arms locking at a 90 say your right all you want the proof is the design it was assembled right. This is just a mod not a fix because nothing was broken to begin with. Yes i know Hasbro dose get it wrong at times hence call them out when they do that but it dose no good to call wolf on everything. I have talked to more people who did the fix to undo the fix later realizing how horrible it has been. As for this picture why is the chest vent so far over that is in the wrong position to begin compared to the first picture I posted so flat side up also can be wrong as well besides who says both sides are not flat for this picture since it's been edited.

FORT MAXie

The reason i said that is the person who posted this replied with a well i seen it in pictures with the flat parts up and it's int eh instructions too all of which are proven wrong

FORT MAXie

You can not see the shoulders in the instructions nor the artwork and as i have shown in the listed package photos they are all flat side down.

How has it been"proven wrong" that the shoulders aren't flat-side-up in the CGI render and instructions?

Here is the render from the instructions – Punch/Counterpunch – Shoulder Fix Flat side up. If you look closely at the render of the figure on the package, you'll see its the same way.

FORT MAXie

cuss you know the tires are on the side of the arms and not on top like the artwork.

You realize that this is a case of the >hand drawn< artwork being based on a completely different figure (the Jazz / Wheelie Generations mold – look at the chest), which is why the tires are different, right? For P/CP instructions and box art, they are renders from the CAD files used to design the actual toy.

Cool Hand Lube

LOL I love the "THE STOCK PICS SHOW IT THIS WAY SO THAT'S CLEARLY THE RIGHT WAY". I'm all over here like, "man, have you SEEN Hasbro stock photography in the last 20 years? It ain't always great." Plus if it IS a misassembly then even the stock pics will be wrong, how is that difficult to see?

The reason i said that is the person who posted this replied with a well i seen it in pictures with the flat parts up and it's int eh instructions too all of which are proven wrong then a podcast said if you do not do this the shoulders will break on their own. You can not see the shoulders in the instructions nor the artwork and as i have shown in the listed package photos they are all flat side down. This is MP 34 Cheetor all over again just arms not feet thou that case was not reading the instructions. In regards to other things Hasbro released i am well aware of them such as this, maybe a shoulder swap will work…. cuss you know the tires are on the side of the arms and not on top like the artwork. Sorry for countering all the claims i heard to make the so called fix right and proved the whole idea wrong but have fun cracking open the toy and hope your do not break it cuss EBay has it at 50 right now. Yes I have heard people have broken the toy while trying to do the fix.

FORT MAXie

I am 100% certain this dose not fix anything at most your potentially breaking your toy in attempting it. I see no pictures supporting only found pictures that has it assembled correctly with flat parts down. The few things i see that people gain by doing it is making less of them out there as people break it attempting this modification because it is not a fix when it's not broken. The other possible reason I see behind it is you know it's not broken and this is a means to grab attention. The best outcome of doing the fix is you will scratch arms and side of the body to heck because the arms no longer lock at a 90 because that is what the flat part is ment to do is lock the arms so they do not keep touching the body that is the so called fix your undoing that designed in protection.
I took this picture from amazon, no editing you can clearly see flat sides down. In this picture you can clearly see the flat part meets with the flat part of the chest armpit area why would you want a round part on the flat part that prevents the arm from being locked. Do not do the so called fix because the arms are not broken I am sorry if you have issues working a ball joint. Do not say Hasbro mis assembled anything when it's clearly put together properly as designed. But if you want to do the fix go ahead but keep in mind there is no more stock right now so getting a replacemnt is not happeneing unless your willing to pay scalper prices.

I have 3 pictures that has Robot's right arm is factory assembled the left arm with the modification you have directed to happen
Left side of picture as assembled, Right side of picture Modification.

Pictures snipped because reasons.

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Secondly, no one is making you do the switch, many have commented it makes the figure more enjoyable for them, easier to align, and more solid in alt mode.
Just because you can't find a picture of it doesn't mean it couldn't have been mis-assembled. It does happen, has happened in the past (for over 15 years), and will happen in the future.
There's even a whole entry for it at the TFwiki, so please read and be amazed: Misassembly – Transformers Wiki

If you're happy with it without the swap? Fantastic!
If you like it more with it done? Great! It's an OPTION. Nothing more.
It's a toy ultimately. Do with it what makes you happy.
But please don't come in here decrying anyone who does it as "wrong" or demeaning them.

Got P/CP today, & did the fix, took like 10 mins to do being all careful and all.

Thanks for the fix and instructions, you clever people!

Just did the mod despite not being particularly bothered by his transformation. Definitely makes a positive difference. I couldn't say, and very much don't care if it's misassembled, or just a design oversight like Repugnus' beast mode arms needing a joint corner shaved to get the illustrated articulation, but I'm happy it's such an easy fix. I prefer not to whittle my Transformers whenever possible.