Hasbro Confirms The Transformers Cinematic Universe – Transformers 5 In 2017?

Cheebs

Wow. This is like TLDR:The Thread

Short version:
"AOE sucked!"
"Uh-uh, it made a lot of money so more people must of liked than hated it!"

TFfanatic88

The Bayverse cannot die fast enough. If not for The Last Airbender and Kirk Cameron's Saving Christmas, Age of Extinction is easily the worst film of the entire decade.

Hahaha.

The room, Dragon ball evolution, legend of chun li, Big mama's house 2, grown ups, grown ups 2, Battlefield LA, Battleship, Devil, the happening, Both Gi joes, man of steel, green lantern, tammy, the lone ranger, any thing by tyler perry

and thats just of the top of my head.

Wow. This is like TLDR:The Thread

Powerglide1991

Transmorphers says hi

He does nothing but troll the movies, so it best to just leave him alone. The ignore list is always a great idea.

LordGigaIce

And? In two weeks we'll see if it under-performs or not. Not that it matters. How good Avengers 2 does doesn't change the fact that blockbusters across the board under-performed in 2014.

And Fast and Furious 7 having already become the seventh highest grossing film of all time at $1.152 Billion doesn't count because…?

Besides, you'd be insane to think Avengers 2 isn't going to break a billion – if AoE can have a terrible plot and break a billion, a film with a good plot is going to hit it out of the park.

I'm not sure what the habits of the Chinese movie-going public have to do with the habits of the American movie-going public. Or what the economic situation in China has to do with the economic situation in America.

Your blanket statement, of course.

LordGigaIce

2014 was a down year for films, across the board. Everything under-performed, save for Guardians of the Galaxy.

Because I'm fairly certain AoE was not the only film released in China that year.

And we're back to you missing the point.
Blockbusters, across the board, under-performed in 2014. They all did. AoE grossed $1.091 billion in that down year. That doesn't mean it would have only drawn that much in a better year. If it were, it would have made more. 2014 was just a low year. TA Spider-Man 2, Captain America 2. AoE. All pulled under what was projected.

Actually, AoE is the outlier, and only because of how heavily it pandered to China by taking place in China, the elevator scene, and all the heavy promotional contracts with the government.

Looking at a list of the top ten grossing films, they all average out to about $750 million. 2014 also currently holds the record for the most movies to make over $500 million in one year – 15. So really, 2014 wasn't a "down" year for movies, it was actually on average more profitable all around.

This ties in with a point later on by the way.
Doesn't change the fact that AoE was the most valuable film. You don't seem to understand this. Of all the films that were released in 2014 it was the most financially viable.

To who? China?

You want to rag on the fact that Paramount only made $250 million off of it. Yet you're conveniently ignoring the fact that it's more then any other studio made off any other film that year.

Yes, because American Sniper only making $243 million in net profit is such a low point for second place. Because Paramount made $245 million off of AoE.

Also, American Sniper made more in the domestic box office (like, $337 million) than AoE did in any single country including the big China money fountain. Which, given American Sniper only had slightly under $60 million in budget, makes it more profitable in terms of the return on the investment.

Go back and take a look at 2014. Not only did blockbusters see a dip in ticket sales across the board but toylines for those movies were all down. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 line and the Captain America: Winter Soldier line were all busts.

You do realize that movie toylines are normally not that successful to begin with, right? Only reason the TF toylines were so big was because they were the same kind of TF product but branded for a feature film.

Also, you can not tell me LEGO did not do well with toy sales after what was literally a giant LEGO commercial has spawned two confirmed sequels and virtually a whole new IP, too, in addition to the whole LEGO sub-line of movie branded product.

In short? The entire industry took a beating. Not just the Transformers AoE line. Economic realities are going to force toy companies to re-evaluate how they handle movie tie-in lines. 2014 was a case of growing pains all around.

Yes, I'm sure Hasbro's girl toylines were devastated by the comparatively successful release of the second Equestria Girls film to the point of once again outstriping the profitability of boys toys for the summer quarterly reports.

Don't like the movies? Fine. Like or don't like whatever you want. I don't care. It's the level of arrogance that says "well I don't like it, therefore it must be a failure" that bugs me about movie detractors.
I mean take a step back from your position and really examine what you're saying. You're saying that the most financially valuable film of 2014 was a flop.

If you judge film quality purely on nothing but the raw worldwide box office, then you're kind of saying that 50 Shades of Gray is a high quality film because right now it's the second highest grossing film of 2015 (F7 literally is ahead by a magnitude of one million) and was the #1 movie in America for two weeks…just like AoE.

It's really amazing just how far down the "Michael Bay sucks!" rabbit hole some people are willing to go.

Nobody's even mentioned Bay's involvement as being part of this – you're the one somehow arguing that by looking at numbers other than that big $1.091 billion total box office revenue and seeing the movie barely returned double the investment – along with doing abysmally in the domestic box office which is more lucrative than China due to those contracts Paramount signed – it's an unfair evaluation of a film that's honestly not that good.

Hell, Paramount had to bribe Bay with a cool $10 million simply to have him agree to direct AoE. That was outside of the film's total costs, but factoring it in? American Sniper made more money as a 2014 release film.

Anyway I'm done. There's nothing more that's going to happen here besides us condescending at each other, and I'm not interested in that. Peace

Well, if you do come back, please have some evidence supporting your claims. I still don't get what's so special about AoE being the most expensive film of 2014 (because that's what "most valuable film" seems to imply)

Powerglide1991

I'm sure he will be, but if he isn't, (and honestly i would hate for them to, but they probably would) they would probably get Gary Chalk, or hold a voice audition to get a voice kinda like Peters. Troy Baker maybe, he did the Joker almost to a tee.

I would hate for them to replace Peter, no one can. But it wouldn't stop them trying.

OT: Would rather 2018, but 2017 is good. So next year it seems we will be talking about nothing but TF5 until it comes out like we did with AOE xD

Troy Baker as Optimus Prime….sure why the fuck not?

cappeca

I remember when 10 years took 10 years to pass, now it's like 2-3 years and BANG, ten years gone!

I know right….years went slowly as a kid…now it's just crazy how much things keep changing in a short time.

Cykill 1

Can't see how they can make this a Universe of movies. The whole concept of Transformers was about Optimus Prime and his band of misfits fighting Megatron and his band of misfits. Punch this Decpticon, Bash that Decepticon….nothing more. The Storylines are really focused on Optimus Prime and Megatron and that is the interesting part. With the exception of Starscream, all other players are not interesting enough to make a franchise. Whereas Marvel and DC have characters that are more developed and more interesting than the Transformers characters. I can see Origin type stories, but they would barely be a movie….even for Optimus or Megatron. They just need to get a good writer that is going to write a good storyline…..then add in Michael Bay explosions.

Except series like in IDW and RID15 has shown you can indeed have stores that don't involve Optimus,Megatron and other well known names with good enough writing. The movies will be a tougher challenge but who knows? they could pull it off. Like they can do a movie that's centered on the Dinobots and Drift who's going against the DJD for leaving the Decepticons.

Smasher

Are we just going to have more movies with unlikable humans running around acting like idiots while the robots remain glorified sentient props?

Well I'd argue that the Autobots were actual characters and not props in AoE. I'd also argue that, even if they were, it wouldn't matter. Don't like the movies? Don't see them. Meanwhile their financial success brings more money into Hasbro, which means the Transformers brand as a whole benefits.

So as a Transforers fan? You should want there to be as many financially successful Transformers films as possible.

Autobot Burnout

Those same experts say the film only made a net profit of $250 million.

And yet it was still the most valuable film of 2014. So what does that tell you? It should tell you what everyone from industry experts to fans with a casual interest in films picked up on. 2014 was a down year for films, across the board. Everything under-performed, save for Guardians of the Galaxy. And that's only because no one knew what to expect from a D-list Marvel title. It did better then expected, but given how well it was received in general? It probably would have done even better in any other year prior.

It's not yet blockbuster season, so who knows if 2015 will see things pick up. If I had to guess as to why 2014 was so low? Well the economy still isn't in the best place, and luxuries like movie tickets are going to be among the first expenses cut. Especially when your tech-savvy audience member can find a torrent of the thing online for free.

My point is that even when the industry as a whole was in a decline, AoE still topped the charts.

unicronic

Granted not all Marvel movies have been perfect but they have all been focused on an end game. It's a bit late in the day to try to do that now for TF movies

not at all, theirs plenty of material and even ground work to expand upon

Iron Man 2 – the worst of the IM movies but still better than ROTF or DOTM by far.

ROTF Maybe, Maybe

DOTM?