Thanks to our very own 2005 Boards member Nevermore for giving us the heads up of New Listings For Bumblebee Energon Igniters Speed Series “Wolf” And Power Series “Power Ram”.
Energon Igniters Speed Series (the smallest ones) “Wolf” was found via Toywiz and Walmart with codes that doesn’t match any known figures.
Entertaintment Earth website has updated a listing for Energon Igniters Power Series wave 2 Revision 1, which consists of Hot Rod, Bumblebee (Camaro), Shatter and a new mysterious “Power Ram” character.
With no picture of these toys available at the moment (image of Wave 1 Power series toys on this news post is just for reference), it’s time to place your bets. Are “Wolf” and “Power Ram” possible new characters? If so, will they be on the upcoming Bumblebee movie? Let us know your impressions on the 2005 Boards!
Nevermore
Transformers Bumblebee Energon Igniters Soundwave and Ironhide Revealed; More Images of Ratchet, Bli
Shackstoys
Click the links and scroll. I thought the same thing lol
IgnikaMarcus
No robot mode pics yet?
HeroicC300
Can't wait to get one of each Autobot at the Power/Plus level and post pics of my convoy
Digger
Strange.
Fallout
holy shit, that soundwave. i'm buying 7.
AzT
https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/produ…for-kids:FAB8E1C7-9297-4D2A-8DD3-3389DEFF8A89
lonewolf96
K thanks
HeroicC300
Check HasbroToyShop.
I tried to get pics but it reroutes to Transformers Monopoly
lonewolf96
Ironhide too ?
Is there a picture or I'm I dum and missed it
HeroicC300
So we have Ratchet, Ironhide, and Soundwave.
Damn, I wanted to not get a bunch of these
AzT
Who's that on the side of this (Power Plus Series?):
https://shop.hasbro.com/en-us/produ…for-kids:B65D40E1-F516-4085-AF18-053F006CC20E
ShadowninjaXD
Power Ram is cliffjumper, likely. Usually Ram is used like in a sentence like \"Bull rammed into something\" and cliffjumper has horns, like a bull..
Wolf is likely Ravage. Wolf is an animal and Ravage is based on an animal
fschuler
Cougar = Arcee
SamuraiX
Power Ram looks like it\'s supposed to be Cliffjumper or Barricade, Wolf is strongly possibly Ravage.
User_136440
There were connections between the TLK codenames too; unlike current Bumblebee and SS toys where they just denote different versions of the same character with a number, they used different but related names. New moulds for Optimus Prime were 'Jupiter' but reuses of existing moulds were 'Four Moons'. Similarly new Bumblebee moulds were 'Saturn' and reuses 'Gas Giant', and Hot Rod was 'Saturn's Rings', denoting his role as a sidekick to Bumblebee. There's definitely no hard and fast rules to it, but they've obviously thought about it enough for things like that to be included.
I'd say 'Ram' is the important identifier; 'Power' literally just denotes the size class, as you can see all the other figures in the assortment:
1x TRA MV6 ENERGON IGNITERS POWER HOT ROD
3x TRA MV6 IGNITERS POWER BUMBLEBEE CAMARO
2x TRA MV6 ENERGON IGNITERS POWER SHATTER
2x TRA MV6 ENERGON IGNITERS POWER RAM
Just out of curiosity, how much stuff relating to the toys and the movies themselves do you know from official sources and how much is the result of looking into things and coming to your own conclusions? I'm only asking because you definitely come across as pretty confident and authoritative about these subjects Edit: ignore that last paragraph, you've answered that in another thread.
Deadend
LMAO! Okay no comment on that one.
Geez, Hasbro got a bit pointed with that one though. xD
Prequel, but feels like a tonal reboot because of his amnesia that happens early on and being set in the past.
That's why Starscream's name was off-limits. But they also want viewers to be able to go into it with a clean slate, and have no preconceived expectations or baggage from the other films too. So it's handled more like a "stand-alone" while also kicking off the 35th G1 anniversary. So it uses a lot of nostalgia.
At one time there was talk of wanting a classic nod twist at the very end, possibly in the credits to say whether it's a reboot or not to have people enjoy the film first before finding out, but I think that idea got cut because they want to approach it more like Star Wars for now. Saving any massive sweeping changes for later. Right now, it's more about getting revitalized interest in the property, and there were also plans to do it as a 3 part bumblebee focus. First part is TLK where he gets his voice back as the setup, then the BB movie as a flashback prequel, to then whatever the next thing ends up being to fully round out bumblebee's story with an epilogue to that later in a follow up. But not sure if that's the fully going to use plan either. And other plans are to cover Optimus Prime more too in his missing backstory areas.
Going forward though, they are going to soften the aesthetic more, but how the transformers look has been a gradual shift based on mental states anyway. To evoke this aspect of prequel, they wanted bumblebee to feel more childlike too, which is why his helmet designs were slightly altered to also mix in some more G1 elements too. A post TLK movie would have an excuse for this too as the tone of the world itself has changed with how the geo-political landscape has shifted, as well as the state of the worlds themselves since it's now become a full era of rebuilding with Decepticons as fugitives and mostly gone, captured, or in hiding with depleted resources. By comparison, think of BB as G1 season 1. Whereas post TLK is Season 3.
But full reboot or not, is a coin flip. You'll have to see the movie first to find out. I honestly couldn't tell you which was fully decided, because there are plans drawn up for either way and I don't know which path they picked, but I do know that there's heavier emphasis on wanting to explore a post-TLK world carrying off the emotional attachments from BB's solo movie.
The thing is, "Reboot" has become a buzzword. How hollywood uses it, compared to how the public hears it are two different things. Hollywood uses it to say "reset" which doesn't always mean full wipe. It only means new energy, new emotions, new direction, and new emphasis. Whereas what the public hears is "fully starting over from scratch and erasing everything that came before."
Saim
the main question is …. is Bumblebee a reboot or prequel because the toy line scream prequel but the trailers and clips scream reboot so is it a reboot some one plz answer