Paramount Pictures has officially removed Transformers 7 (sequel to Transformers: The Last Knight) from their release schedule.
This news, albeit announced today, comes as no surprise to TFW2005 members; for Hasbro mysteriously removed the movie from their schedule, a day prior to New York Toy Fair 2018. Despite the fact that a certain rectification was carried out during the Fair itself, the news was already out among the fan community. Paramount Pictures was silent regarding the matter until today.
However, the upcoming Transformers: Bumblebee movie is set to reboot the series with a new direction.
This news also drops the plans carried out by the Writers’ Room for a Transformers Cinematic Universe, which included 21 story pitches (two of which turned into TLK and another into Bumblebee: The Movie).
Deadline exclusively reports:
“In addition, the Melrose lot has undated Transformers 7 from its previous date of June 28, 2019. In its place, Paramount will release the Tiffany Haddish comedy Limited Partners on that date. Paramount had hatched a writers room led by Akiva Goldsman to hammer out future iterations of Transformers movies. The spinoff Bumblebee, whose clips were well received at CinemaCon, comes out on Dececmber 21 directed by Travis Knight. Michael Bay has hinted that Transformers: The Last Knight was his final stint in the director’s chair for a Transformers movie. Transformers 7 was put in as a placeholder on the calendar years ago, and the studio is rebooting the entire franchise in the direction of Bumblebee.”
At the moment, there is no specific date set for the next Transformers movie following Bumblebee, which is scheduled for December 21st.
TOOTO
Yes, I am talking about that movie.
Matty
Wonderful advice!
I’m starting to notice some repeat offenders here, so either get it together or this thread will be closed to you. No one should feel like they NEED to get the last word in.
Discuss civilly please.
electronic456
Hey everyone, it's great you have opinions and all but stop beating a dead horse and just move on.
Dreamcast
With all of these films the key thing is great stories and character you want to watch. Even when the stories in some of the films are just serviceable the viewer still finds some enjoyment because they enjoy watching the characters.
Terminator 2 is about a time traveling robot. Pirates of the Caribbean is based on a freaking roller coaster ride and that turned out pretty well (well the first few). Point is the source material doesn't define quality, it can be as good or as bad as the filmmakers want it to be. Every new film is a blank canvas and Bay has fucked it up 7 times now.
I dont believe it's the paramount execs fault, I think that's all thanks to Bay. You dont need humans to make them relatable, you just MAKE them relatable. You write for them, give them an arc, a personality (a stereotype does not count). Cap America, Iron Man, Thor…who were they before the MCU? Relative unknowns compared to Batman and Superman. Who were the actors? Hemsworth, Evans, Downey Jr were no where near the stars they were today. It doesnt matter if you're human or a CGI robot.
This is why the BB spinoff makes no sense. No one cares about BB besides the fans and even then his "character" is far from any iteration of his character we all know and love least of all his G1 character. As it is it might as well be a spinoff called Marky Mark featuring BB but then no one cares about Marky Mark as well do they…
drbeakman
When there is a decent movie made, I'm sure everyone will be happy, on both sides
Galvatross
Yep.
Nothing Transformers should make any of us legitimately angry. If you enjoy G1, enjoy G1. If you enjoy Bayverse, enjoy Bayverse. I could go on. If you don't like those, state your criticisms respectfully, or move on to focus on what you do enjoy.
I don't care for RiD 2015. I didn't like TLK anywhere near as much as its predecessors. I have zero interest in anything that Machinima has put out, but I'm perfectly okay if others do like those things much more than I do.
Autobot Burnout
I dunno about Harry Potter – while it is more or less Universal's current answer to Disney's Star Wars, what with the theme park wars essentially pitting Star Wars Land against Harry Potter Land in Florida, HP itself was only really supported by the main book series. Fantastic Beasts was originally nothing more than a little booklet of fluff – I happen to own a first edition oddly enough – meant to literally be Harry's copy of the textbook by its contents being raw information about fictional beasts with scribbles and notes made by Harry and friends (I.E. the entry for Hungarian Horntail has the name crossed out and "Baby Norbert" written above it). The fact they were able to spin off an entire freaking film based on that was impressive, but to my knowledge, the only other side-book in that style was something about the history of Quiddich and frankly I don't see a magical sports movie that interesting.
Where Bond and the MCU succeed is that they don't tell the same stories (unless in the case of Bond it's a remake). The only thing Bond films have in common is the main character, who even then isn't entirely consistent between films and not just because he's had six or more different actors over the years. And the MCU always keeps things fresh because generally each film does something unique – Ant Man sounds like a terrible concept because what's so great about a guy who shrinks to the size of an ant? Except then you change things up by turning Hank Pym into a side character (and also kill off his wife off screen to avoid the whole part where Pym in the comics is a notorious wife-slapper) and Ant Man is now an expert thief with the ability to control ant colonies and other cool tricks that come with being tiny – and you package that all together in a superhero heist film.
The issue with Transformers and Paramount is that while the robots are recognizable to us, Paramount execs believe they're the WEAKER part of the film (despite being about them) and as such try to use the humans as a more focal visual selling point. That's why you have Marky Mark being the lead role as a father instead of, y'know, Josh Dummel who was a father in the first film and also is one of the few genuinely awesome human badasses in the franchise, but Dummel doesn't have the kind of name recognition as Whalberg (despite in my opinion Dummel being a far better actor). That's why you get Anthony Fucking Hopkins showing up as this guy who knows all the conspiracy with Transformers through human history, even though the character is ultimately a secondary if not minor role that could have easily gone to some other British actor I.E. that narrator guy from The Stanley Parable and gotten the exact same result for a lot less money spent on actor's wages.
This extends into having to try and make up for some perceived failure on part of the Transformers to be relatable – even though they're pretty human already being in truth based on humans to begin with in terms of personalities, emotions, etc. – and so the human factor has to be hyped even more. That's where this whole stupid trend of bullshit on Earth and screwing with the past comes from – every single damn thing the Transformers do must be directly tied to the humans in some way, such that you have to question when the hell were the robots ever on Cybertron if they're too busy doing random shit on Earth that's forgotten for hundreds or thousands of years until they suddenly become relevant in the present?
The writers, too, are guilty of this manner of thinking, because somehow trying to write robots as being able to be emotive and relatable just like humans somehow is impossible. Like, absolutely NONE of the robots from the first film were important enough to spare the bullshit off-screen slaughter by humans that's just lazily thrown out as an excuse in AoE to introduce a bunch of new robots with the exact same fucking problems, instead of developing even just ONE secondary Autobot that wasn't Prime or BB. The robot characters being treated as disposable in that manner show that they really do not care about them.
Dreamcast
Spectacle is a one trick pony, 3 at best. Plenty of franchises continue on without franchise fatigue Harry Potter, Bond, MCU. The key elements they have are well told stories and great characters. Unsurprisingly this is why we love G1 and to this day it remains so endearing.
Better stories and characters Is this too much to ask from a TF movie? It's hilarious if not sad they hired a bunch of writers and the best they came up with is the idiotic king Arthur story.
I whole heartedly believe Bayformers deserves its miserable death.
pilot00
See the post above you, and how it swings to the other direction below you. Its not the first time we witness the mighty mental gymnastics on this subject. And it wont be the last.
Galvatross
Exactly. The live-action movies, Bay or otherwise, are darned if they do and darned if they don't.