Via avclub.com, IDW Announces Visionaries VS. Transformers Comic.
Visionaries is coming back and IDW presents its new version in the Hasbro Universe. New comic “Visionaries Vs Transformers” is expected on December. While the article doesn’t reveal much about the plot, we can have a look at Cover A, B and Variant, and it seems good old Ironhide is not having a good time.
You can check the mirrored images after the jump, and then share your impressions at the 2005 Boards!
Darth Gonzo
But the IDW Universe has to much hate in story.
Danny-Boy
They didn’t throw out all the past stories. If you ask me, that’s much better than the New 52.
Darth Gonzo
I have given up hope on this IDW Hasbro Universe it\'s to much like the New 52.
dragon_lord
Well, since I most likely won't be getting any of figures made out of this comic (if they make any) I went ahead and got myself the SDCC Exclusive Leoric.
I honestly hate Overlord
yeah, this person is not to be trusted with anything, considering her mentality.
Novaburnhilde
No thanks. Hiring a complete nutcase to write these stories isn't a glowing endorsement, either.
dragon_lord
To be accurate they're anthropomorphic aliens that live in the planet Prymos. They had a very advance technology-oriented society that went south quickly after the 3 suns in their solar system aligned causing technology to stop working (more like electricity stopped working) and fell back into a sort of medieval-style post-apocalyptic world where magic somehow works.
You can check this video for more details:
Danny-Boy
The Visionaries aren't humans. They're alien wizards.
Murasame
Visionaries was a show? I thought Visionaries was something like Revolutionaries. I don't like some humans come to Cybertron and do things they shouldn't be able to. This are fucking Transformers. They can't be killed by humans. And fuck you, Spike.
Darth Gonzo
Okay who ever brouth the new Power Puff Girl in this didn\'t see her debut episode because it makes her out to be the first Powerpuff Girl and not ony that but the 3 we all know and love stole that title from her, which make it out that the Powerpuff Girls whitewashed the first Powerpuff Girl before she even appeared on screen.
Optimus Prime23
13 pages in (I've only looked at the first page) I'm sure someone's already pointed this out, but Leoric looks familiar…
cashel
i don't want to "hate-on" a franchise that some love but my problem is that i don't see many of these newly shared transformer universe titles being at all successful. i admit to knowing nothing about the visionairies (sp) but , like action man, these franchises aren't strong enough to succeed alone. it sucks that they have to use a critical favorite to pimp these new and totally effed-up renditions of existing continuities (i love g.i. joe but the new title doesn't really fit in with transformers let alone the revamped g.i. joe). however, i feel this too will pass and idw's tf universe will endure AND CONTINUE TO BE REPRINTED IN IDW'S TF: THE IDW COLLECTION OF HARD COVERED VOLUMES.
dragon_lord
Even though I would've preferred that Bunny came back since I saw her debut episode, I have no real issues with Bliss, only that…maybe that she's too tall? But I guess there's a reason for it.
That being said, cartoons aside there's also precedents in Anime with Saint Seiya and the sequel called Saint Seiya Omega with fans rejecting the newer designs that Toei decided to shove in for not fitting with the original aesthetics of the Cloths.
Guess which one is Omega?
Bass X0
See, IDW, and Boatformer too – this right here is how adding racial diversity to long running existing properties should be handled. See how none of the original three have been changed so as not to alienate existing fans, but now with the addition of a new character to fulfil a specific required role?
I have no idea who this new character is other than what I see in this image, and that her name is Bliss. I don't know if she will be a permanent addition or a single episode character.
There was a character named Bunny who was the fourth Powerpuff Girl, who has the same purple clothes and eyes, but since they have different names, its easy to accept Bliss as a new and separate character, rather than Bunny is now black. That's another positive in my book despite not knowing about Bunny before today. I think she was a single episode character.
Bass X0
I'm mostly traditionalist. I wouldn't want the IDW comics to keep some of the more goofy and ridiculous aspects from the 80s, but having a white man be the main character isn't at all goofy or ridiculous. I would have accepted the redesigns as completely new characters and not replacements for the original characters. I'll agree that there was a lack of black people in the original toyline and cartoon – that's why new black characters need to be created with new names; not new black characters with the names of the original characters. I read Boatformer even wanted the original toy characters to have a gender swap for when they appeared in the cartoon (which I find ridiculous and disrespectful, even if the toyline was short-lived) instead of creating new female characters like they did.
primalxconvoy
Thing is, I'm only suggesting that due to the train-wreck that IDW created with the current stories. If they had handled it better, we wouldn't need a separate universe…
SG Roadbuster
kinda like what IDW did with the "Mars Attacks: Transformers" book. instead of contaminating the real story with the crossover, it happened in a one off vaccum.
i'd be ok with a shared universe, if it was conceptualized that way from the get-go. establish a Universe that has Transformers, Gijoe, Monopoly, Visionaries, Stretch Armstrong, and Strawberry Shortcake in it from the very beginning. rather than forcing all of this extraneous crap into successful sub-franchise that's been running for 12 years
ron8675309
Clearly you can make something of a point without resorting to overblown vulgarity or fanboy hysterics as before, which frankly spoke more volumes to your misogyny than whatever stake you think you have in the Visionaries reboot.
At the end of the day, comic books and toys exist to make money first, and to please fans second. If after all this time a very obviously understandable marketing decision still bums you out that much, there's nothing anyone can do for you.
WishfulThinking
That's the beginning of a circular debate, because you can then ask "If it doesn't matter if he's black or white, then why change him in the first place?"
Let me short-circuit this debate right here and condense it down to one post:
TRADITIONALIST want a new comic based on the old characters as they remember them, as the nostalgia of seeing their heroes as they were in new adventures holds a charm they value.
MODERNIST don't care about the nostalgia, either out of indifference or not being around at that time, and see the value in creating heroic minority characters.
Neither side is right or wrong. And all you have to do is vote with your wallet. If TRADITIONALISTS want nostalgia-driven Hasbro titles, start a letter campaign to IDW for "MASK Classic" and "Visionaries Classic"…and then buy the crap out of it if it happens.
primalxconvoy
True, we can't say w what will happen to this iteration. As for the relationship to bring black, I was replying to another post that perhaps suggested that Leo-black could eventually become Classics Leoric. I stated that I doubled that could happen.