Care of TFW2005 members Sanchimaru and Jalaguy, we are able to present the finale of the Unite Warriors Manga for your reading pleasure in English! This is the second part of Ruination’s story, and yes, it is also the finale – implying that Ruination may be the final Unite Warriors release. It is a good way to end what has at times been a very strange story, and if nothing else, gives us Scourge riding into battle on the back of Sky-Byte – what is not to love?
Check out the translation attached to this post, and see also Jalaguy’s notes regarding the translation project:
- Read right to left.
- English names and dub attack callouts used again.
- Grand Scourge’s combined mode is named “Scourge Grand Prime” in the original Japanese, to match “Convoy Grand Prime”, I’ve used “Grand Scourge Maximus” to retain symmetry with “Optimus Maximus”.
- Galvatron II’s early adventures in the Japanese G1 universe, before travelling back in time, were in the post-G2 era, where he fought e-HOBBY Laser Ultra Magnus. His adventures in the ’80s are from the TV Magazine story pages.
- When Galvatron II discusses Trypticon, in the original Japanese he says he commanded “Dino-saurer [Dainozaurā], the earliest version of Dinosaurer [Dainazaurā]”. Sakamoto is being a massive nerd: the former version of the name was used in the Scramble City OVA, where Trypticon also had a different character model, so the idea is that Trypticon was renamed when he was rebuilt in Five Faces of Darkness.
- The “heart” at the end is the Zodiac, which would indeed eventually revive Optimus as Star Convoy.
Thanks once again to Sanchimaru and Jalaguy for their hard work translating this and sharing it with the wider fandom!
marvel b
i'm sad i might not get this……gots to save for TR wreckers, nintendo switch, and my other needs of entertainment…..
keeping the bbts pre order just in case…….
GizmoTron
Hey, don't blame me, you're the one who just had to go off on that little "fanfics are for losers" tirade and ruin the fun.
SouthtownKid
Well, thanks for helping extend the stupidity by ignoring the people trying to change it back.
GizmoTron
Wow, this thread turned stupid real fast.
SouthtownKid
Even if Fire Convoy and crew aren't originally from the post-G2 era like the Combatrons, they can still be alive then… just having taken the long way. Here's hoping.
Markdelg
We'll almost certainly see Grand Scourge again. As for Galvatron II, now that he's a ghost, who knows what persnickety mayhem he'll cause in the future?
Actually, this comic made me want to get the E-Hobby Galavatron II toy…until I saw what he's going for. I think I'll just wait until E-Hobby releases their new crystal-ghost TR Galvatron repaint…'cause you know that's where this is going
You know, the more I think about it, the more I'm hoping that the next comic will take place post-G-2, and that Fire Convoy et. al were originally from that time period like the Combatrons. That way it gives some justification for a new Car Robots combiner if Baldigus & Black Convoy are going to spring Gigatron from prison…
Robogeek28
Seriously.
SouthtownKid
You must be out of your mind. I mean, if you are talking about writing spec scripts for television, maybe, but that's done in the strict format of a proper television script. If you are talking about comics, that also has to be formatted (although the guidelines are much more relaxed than television or film) as a proper script. And for novels, no editor wants to read any rambling, unfocused narrative featuring characters you don't own. Who are these writers who break out doing fanfic?
Actually, I have to take blame that I didn't say this earlier in this thread, although I've said it in others on the same subject here: If you are in high school, by all means, write fanfic. It's too soon for you to take real classes, and just developing the discipline of producing every day is useful at that age, even if what you are producing is garbage. At that age, it's going to be garbage anyway. It's only fanfic from people the age of graduating university or older which offends me.
Anyway, as I said to the other guy a few posts above, you like it, I hate it, neither of us are going to alter our views on this — let's move on. For my part, I enjoyed this comic a lot and I don't want to keep poisoning the thread with my unrelated hatred of fanfic.
NanakoPreame
So, how about them combiners?
G.B. Blackrock
Wow… I'm sorry for your friend. But that has literally NOTHING to do with fanfic (which, while I certainly did produce many years ago, I haven't for years, so make of that what you will in regard to any motives I have for defending it).
Seriously, you've thrown all of this baggage onto what fanfic is or does that it absolutely doesn't deserve.
ANY writer who breaks out, probably without exception (but I'm willing to be corrected on that) started out by doing fanfic. Far from something that keeps the writer from breaking out and doing professional work, it is often what helps get them through the door.
Fenrys
You're not taking into account that some people are perfectly content with not pursuing writing professionally and instead do it as a hobby. Writing fanfic is no different than coming up with stories in your head to act out with your toys. Some people like the diversion and for you to claim that they are creatively bankrupt is an absurd claim. Some people are perfectly content playing in other people's sandboxes
SouthtownKid
Transformers at it's core is a corporate-owned property, and has been from day one. Being a writer of work-for-hire is different than fanfic. Transformers fiction is not, and never will be, great art. I can live with that and enjoy it for what it is. My objection to fanfic has nothing to do with that, and is about the waste of the lives of the people who put themselves into the safe bubble world of never actually attempting something real and putting themselves out there.
I have a friend who had great creative talent and ability who wanted to be an actor. But when he graduated high school, instead of pursuing it, he retreated into drinking himself into a stupor every day after his crap job all the way into his mid-30s, by which point it was too late to do anything (not just because of age, but also due to the cumulative effect of decades of daily binge drinking). Because the idea of facing possible rejection and failure was too intimidating. So he'll never know what he could have done. I rank fanfic writing as only a half-step less bad than that.
If someone has any aspiration of being a writer, fanfic is an offensive waste of life. James Roberts is a happy outlier. For every person like him who has successfully made a transition to professional life, there are thousands of fanfic-producers who will never do anything but produce garbage using the stolen creative work of others as a crutch.
You like it. Maybe you produce it. Have at it. But I urge you to aim higher.
G.B. Blackrock
Why are you even HERE? This is a Transformers board. By definition, any Transformers fiction we read, no matter who it's done by, builds off of someone else's work rather than being wholly creative (as if that were even possible, as already demonstrated by others). Are you really going to criticize all fiction done for the very property that is why this board exists in the first place?
Point blank, to use the term "fanfic" as derogatory is both misinformed and inappropriate. You should stop doing so.
SouthtownKid
That thing will never stand on it's own two feet. It's already standing on someone else's two feet.
There's no way of getting around that.
Mecheon
Let's be honest, the discussion is basically done at this point. There's no sneaky references to new Unite Warriors figures, it seems Hasbro's Liokaiser will be the only one released to the market, Scourge riding Sky Byte is still hilarious.
Its my opinion, to everything in life, that you should judge it by its own merits and not allow any biases to take over. Your very attitude is completely opposed to mine. You stereotype. You don't allow something to stand on its own two feet, instead just slapping it with a brush of 'Its fanfic, its garbage'.
I can see you're too close minded to accept that, shock and horror, things can be good regardless of where they come from.
Your attitude would have resulted in things like Planescape: Torment not being created, because how dare good writers write in something that isn't a world they made up?
Fenrys
You pov can be expanded though to essentially say anyone that has written transformers since budiansky has written garbage since they built on his work. This is where your view starts losing ground. Japanese g1 by extension would also be automatic garbage since it wasn't hasbro, the original creators.
SouthtownKid
I'm not treating anything as being automatically great. Original works by original authors can fall anywhere on the spectrum from profound and life-altering all the way down to completely empty-calorie junk. But fanfic by its very nature is garbage. It doesn't matter how much the producer of said garbage loves the source material they steal from or how long they struggled with it. It's garbage.
I don't expect (or even really want) to change your opinion, which, for all I know, may be coming from defensiveness over your own fanfic work. And you'll never change my opinion about fanfic's absolute lack of value or how much I hate the idea of people pissing away their limited time on this Earth avoiding becoming real writers. So we might as well stop wasting everyone else's time, drop it and get back to talking about this comic. Like the poster who started this mini debate, I do see the term 'fanfic' as being derogatory when used to describe someone's work. And I will continue to use the term as being derogatory.
Mecheon
And what if this 'completely new universe' is just some ridiculously archetypal paint-by-the-numbers fantasy setting with elves, dwarves and whatever else, where the thinly veiled self-insert of a main character gets with another character? So base and generic you could slap it into D&D and not even notice a difference? Because don't even kid yourself, you know those are both terrible and existent. And yet…
Is this somehow better than a fan of a series writing their own work about it? Someone who takes and understands concepts an original series was going for and expands on them? Someone who takes unused or hinted at concepts and expands them into full range stories that could fit in with the original work and not even be noticed?
This is my problem. You treat "Grade A fantasy slop" as wonderful, and "Labor of love created by a fan of something who's spent years making something work" as garbage.
I judge people on what their actual work and production is. Not what its published as.
SouthtownKid
You don't see the difference between some author using archetype to build a completely new universe… and some producer of fanfic stealing an already completely pre-made world with all its pre-made characters to tell little side stories? The first takes imagination and talent. An actual understanding of craft. The second takes desire and empty time without ability. Sure it's sad, but not everyone who wants to write has the ability, any more than every person who likes to kick a soccer ball is capable of playing in the Premier League. That's just reality. And then there are some people who would be capable becoming at least a journeyman writer with enough training in actual craft, but probably aren't ever going to realize that dream if they waste their lives producing worthless slashfic featuring other people's creations.
Creating fanfic is a diversion at best, and at worst is an excuse for someone to avoid taking the scary plunge into producing their own work and submitting to publishers.
Not necessary. I don't need that if you're the kind of person who drags the creators of great literature down to the level of someone who in their free time makes up little, hollow stories about characters they didn't even create.