Thanks to the Transformers Asia Facebook page, we’ve received our first look at the collector’s coin coming with Masterpiece Thundercracker. The MP-11T figure will be seeing a release very soon, official release date overseas is November 28th. If you have a preorder locked in for this Seeker, clear a space on your shelf as he’ll be here shortly.
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Afterburner
If they made the stuff we love, they would be supported. The market only exists when they fall short. Whether it is cost, quantity, or quality.
It is a business relationship. Hasbro has made that very clear, and for all the love TakaraTomy gives, they fall short of any relationship beyond that as well. We give money, they give us product. It goes no further. If you think they have any respect for you, just look at FunPub, an amateur and unethical business Hasbro has endorsed and profited off of for years. If Hasbro had even one iota of respect or care for fans beyond $$$ FunPub would have been gone years ago. Not to mention all of the other corporate crap like the unethical factory practices that were exposed and buried just a few years past.
When they don't give enough product or the product in this case is randomly inaccurate to both the Animation and Starscream's established level of accuracy, they create a secondary market through their own incompetence or unwillingness. The KO's simply fill this market. If they want to stop them, they should stop them. It is not the consumer's responsibility to protect the holder's IP. They can easily destroy that market by focusing on the right factors.
We especially don't owe them anything when the IP holder treats it's IP very poorly in the first place.
Skywarp and Thundercracker are major characters in a Masterpiece line up, whether they had thousands of lines in the cartoon or not. The fact is neither have had a proper release yet, which makes it all the more maddening that they cost more than a standard MP. Higher cost + less accuracy + low production = instant hot KO market.
Since the signs point to these not being done correctly any time soon, I'm in.
Max Rawhide
I don't think it's likely that this will happen, since they weren't released at regular retail in the first place.
And if it would happen, they likely would stand out. For example, I expect all the silver on the chests to be replaced by dull grey paint/plastic, since that was what it looked liked in the cartoon.
Markdelg
QFT.
Do you know how much money Hastak makes when some dude on eBay sells his Skywarp for $500? Nothing. So if they don't re-release him, then people either have to buy him for some dumb amount of money or buy a KO. Either way, Hastak loses. But that's not our fault.
Friendross
Hasbro white knights should turn attention to the tax dodging corporation.
Poor little corp "agreed" to paying Mexico 65mil….. Wonder how much they really owed or what other government they are hiding money from
I'm way More concrerbed about the creators being compensated for the creation of ip then dirty sweat shop corporations profits from 30 year old ip
Exclusive: Hasbro pays Mexico tax authorities $65 million in settlement after probe | Reuters
Wh33l JcK
Important characters like them never should have been exclusives in the first place.
Really hoping a +series deco version comes out at a more reasonable price!
03Mach1
I used to tie my high horse right up next to yours. Then I realized that these are just toys. Meaningless display things in the grand scheme of life. If Hasbro or Takara really wanted my money, they would release/re-release MP SW instead of letting the secondary market dictate a price over $500 in the case of SW. Until then, if this KO is well made and fits in with my other MP's, then I just may bite.
But know full well when Hastak does release them I will jump on them.
ChromeMagnus
Maybe the rising popularity and existence of high quality KOs will force the official party to make higher quality and reasonably priced products.
Nah, who am I kiddin'
shadowfall1976
I hate to say it man, but damn, if I can get extra funds together after getting my last two G1 Combiners from Takara and MP Ratchet… I need a TC or SW and SS.. And I ain't paying $200 plus for them. Its stupid how three essential characters from Season 1 are jacked to high hell in price for the officials. As much as I hate KOs…I need cheaper Seeker options.
anubis20
Well im selling a MP-11T if anyone is interested
Dark Jedi
I have to side with the KO fans on this one. I have BBQ-01 aka KO Skywarp on preorder because the original can not be found for less than $300.
Fallout
when they overcharge like crazy and have crazy QC issues that go unsolved?
ChromeMagnus
Not to mention that the ko version comes with all the extra accessories that the TT version did not come with.
Wh33l JcK
I think it was stinky how TC and SW were expensive exclusives when you could get the seeker mold at Toys R Us for $60.
My hope is TC and SW get +series release at a the normal MP price, with decepticon logos to match SS.
ChromeMagnus
In addition to availability and more favorable prices, there's the issue of quality. We've recently seen examples where ko's are not only cheaper priced than than the originals but also higher quality. For a buyer it is a no brainer. Competitive pricing and higher quality always wins.
ultraman zoffy
How are you supposed to do this if the only way to support those people is to "support" secondary market sellers and large, scalpy markups? Your stance is admirable, but you're totally ignoring one of the main reasons why some people have to turn to KO's in the first place: lack of product available at normal retail prices. Most TF collectors would throw their money at Hasbro in a heartbeat for official releases of these seekers if it were possible, but it happens to not be at the moment, with no word or announcement that will be in the future.
Dean ML
Man, fuck KOs. As a guy who makes his living in a creative field, few things burn me up more than fans stealing the thing they claim to be fans of. Support the people who make the stuff you love.
BIG BOT STUDIOS
So many great shots in this forum. We love reading the reviews too, great write ups!
ChromeMagnus
I just may have to get this version and save some $$ if the quality is excellent.
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transformers-3rd-party-discussion/1058943-kubianbao-kos-mp-11sw-skywarp-mp11t-thundercracker.html
Dark Jedi
Just scored this bad boy for $134 from Japan. I still have the Hasbro one sealed so I can sell it off hopefully for about $100 which is what I paid for it on eBay.
ChromeMagnus
It's too bad this item is still overpriced.