“Before time began… there was The Cube”. That is the first thing you heard when you sat down at the theater to enjoy your first Transformers Live Action Movie. “The Cube” was The Allspark; giver of life to Cybertronians.
But the question of the hour is, will we see it on Transformers 4?
Thanks to 2005 Boards member Anodythe, we have information that The Cube may return in some form (as a memory or repaired). This piece of rumor (yep, it’s not fully confirmed yet) is coming from NPR who made a visit to one of Paramount’s Set Warehouses.
“Randall Thropp, a Paramount archivist, recoils in mock fear from the power of the AllSpark as set decorator Rosemary Brandenburg takes it from the glass case. The AllSpark was used as a prop in Transformers; it may have another life in an upcoming sequel.” A little movie factoid: The AllSpark Cube was technically a prop in the first Transformers, because an actor actually touched and even ran with it. Brandenburg thinks the cube might make a reappearance in Transformers 4 as set decoration. It’s too early to tell. But archivist Randall Thropp says that unfortunately, she can’t take the AllSpark and use it in the film.“That is the only cube we have, right here,” Thropp says. It resides in a glass showcase.
Brandenburg can borrow the cube and make copies, though. “A movie set is a pretty dangerous place for things,” she says. “We have to repair things constantly. Our special-effects brothers and sisters are running around blowing things up, and our stunt brothers and sisters, too.”
Brandenburg often has to make multiple copies of items because of all those blowups.
We will have to wait and see if this Transformers 4 rumor is true.
RedWolf
According to Bob Orci interview those were feral Transformers.
The Allspark is like the mutagen in TMNT II. Tokka and Razar were animals thus they mutated their corresponding intelligence was that of babies. The Turtles had years to develop their minds.
Also Cybertronians don't rely on the Allspark to reproduce. As seen in Revenge of the Fallen Hatchlings are the beginning of the Cybertronian life cycle. And apparently they can have descendants as seen with the Dynasty of Primes and Jetfire spouting his lineage.
Scorpio
Technically the first cube did that… seeing as everything it touched it made evil due to its power + it only healed evil robots.
RedWolf
There is got to be a twist. What if this cube produces Dark Energon?
Moy
From a story standpoint it would be senseless to kill off Cybertron completely. Unless we're introduced to a new planet which The Autobots may find refuge, but that's just obnoxious in my opinion.
When I saw Cybertron being destroyed it was a bit silly to experience. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say Cybertron needs to be placed back in the story some how.
Aernaroth
Not necessarily. Remember, they don't say that energy stays the same, only that it isn't created or destroyed. It could either have been "lost" by transforming much of the energy into a non-usable form (sort of a mystical form of entropy), or it could simply be locked within the Matrix now, which has differnt ways of channeling it and might not be able to be used the same way.
The other problem is, as I said, cybertron may simply be beyond even the cube's power to save now.
Gingerchris
There's probably a matter of scale here. The Allspark was destroyed while it was small, so the shards are small and perhaps contain less power, unless the power is concentrated. Also a lot of energy was lost when it took out Megatron. When the Cube was on Cybertron it was in its big size and maybe contained more power. Or rather wouldn't have been so badly affected blowing out Megatron while in its bigger state.
I'm assuming the Allspark doesn't so much contain the power as it's a conduit for gathering power, such as from the Star Harvester. The fact it had to be recharged at all suggests its power isn't infinite. So maybe if a shard could be powered up enough to restore itself and become big again it might be okay for restoring Cybertron.
Pity the Allspark wasn't destroyed when it was in the bigger mode. More shards and perhaps bigger shards too.
But who knows with the Allspark? Shit be made up as it goes along.
Moy
But the power of the Cube should still be the same, regardless of it's current state, or..?
Aernaroth
If one shard was barely enough to repower a single cybertronian in stasis or animated a few appliances, the handful of shards left would probably have been insufficient to repower cybertron to any meaningful degree.
And after DOTM, it would be even less likely I'd say, given there really wasnt really… anything… left of cybertron after that, and since all known shards were already consumed.
Moy
I was curious if it was possible at all since the remains of the Cube are in shards.
bookwormdalek
You get two A+ for the awesome avatar and the alliteration!
jametron
A+ for awesome adjective selection.
Surge
I wonder if it will be similar to the first movie then. I hope so. The lack of robots was disappointing in the first movie but I'm starting to see why so many people prefer it over the other two. On second thought, it could also mean bad news: it'll be a MacGuffin again.
bookwormdalek
It depends on your point of view. I don't think it would be, if the Autobots used it, but if the Decepticons used it, they would also use it for their own nefarious purposes, necessitating the destruction of the cube as Meta stated above.
Moy
Is it foolish to rebuild Cybertron using the Cube's power?
Meta777
Did you miss the intro of the first Movie, Chaos? "We scattered across the galaxy, hoping to find it, and rebuild our home."
Optimus did desire the Allspark to revive Cybertron, but by the time he's reached Earth, he's come to the conclusion that so long as the Allspark exists, the Decepticons will never stop fighting over it. Great power lures great evil. So they decide it is better to destroy the Cube, and deny the Decepticons their very reason for fighting, and live on Earth.
But that didn't work, 'cause Megatron had back-up plans. Why on Earth would Optimus hesitate to destroy the Harvester, a device under the control of a psychotic demigod that destroys entire suns? The Sun is life, and without it, Earth would die. Or hesitate to destroy the pillars, that are under the control of a traitorous delusional God-wannabe who's bringing the planet over to enslave an innocent race and ravage Earth?
The Autobots aren't willing to see Cybertron return at the cost of a planet and its lifeforms that by all means should never have been involved in their war in the first place, aren't willing to see it return under Decepticon control. Cybertron is dead, and they aren't going to prioritise a war-torn corpse over their new home.
Chaos Prime
I disagree.
I don't really know or care what the comics might say, but in the movies, the Autobots express no interest at all in saving Cybertron.
They have given up on trying to save Cybertron, which is really surprising, and disappointing coming from the Autobots.
Destrroying the Cube, the Sun Harvestor, and the space bridge; they have all be destroyed without hesitation.
If Optimus paused for a second before blowing up the harvester, that would be one thing.
If Bumblebee and Ratchet hesitated before blowing up the space bridge, it would have added a bit of depth to the characters.
But judging by the Autobots actions and lack of remorse over the death of Cybertron, they no longer care.
But then again; that's what happens when you have a bad story, writers, and directors.
Aernaroth
Einstein did not coin the law of conservation of mass/energy.
But as Bookworm and Wu Jen stated, it was transferred into Sam in terms of the knowledge (and presumably, "energy") in his head, and to Megatron and Jetfire in terms of the energy that overloaded/killed/ressurrected and energon that repowered them, respectively. And the energy/energon that animated the kitchenbots, I suppose.
After ROTF, I imagine the energy re-entered the matrix, at least in part.
Wu Jen
And Jetfire, he was revived using it. Which in turn went into Prime when he 'partsformed'
bookwormdalek
The energy itself was channeled into Megatron, which in turn killed him. The knowledge was transferred into Sam when he picked up the fragment.
Griffin73
“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
― Albert Einstein
So the energy of the Cube was…Transformed?
Into what??? or whom?