Anyone interested in buying vintage G1 items beware, there are new high quality knock offs out on the market. The latest in the KO world are carded G1 Constructicon figures.
We urge our readers to use caution when purchasing vintage items on the secondary market. Make sure to educate yourselves on the product and be aware whether the item you are interested in purchasing is an authentic item or a knock off.
Update: There is also a set of carded Micromaster teams mistakenly labelled as KOs from this retailer. But they have been confirmed in the past by other retailers and by in-hand reviews as old unsold legitimate G1 stock recently discovered in storage.
GenZhao
These are the exact same bots that are in the box set, the only difference between this and the box set is the packaging and the carded set does not come with the large instruction sheet. Otherwise the toys are exactly the same
catz
haha ok… for that kind of price, I'd bought my KO from gengzhao
Ruination04
So what are the differences between this and the original??
The assortment number # is missing.
Another tell tell sign is that The TF logo has a R symbol and the original hs a TM symbol on it.
nvidia101
thats the guy I won those KO posted above. Ebay id: lm5418. He canceled the transaction cause he knew I was aware they were KOs at that point and he could not scam me $467.00 dollars total into buying them… but his probably gone try to scam the other guy offering him the $600 or the second bidder…
catz
oh is that the email from that djfungshin guy?
same thing happen to me, he cancel a transaction quite too easy to my taste "to avoid problems"
nvidia101
actually I was the buyer of them. After a closer look and asking the seller for bigger pics I knew in fact they where KO's and also checking the latest NEWS on these forums.
Here are the pics the seller sent me:
Thats pretty sad that people offered him $600 but i guess they thought it was original:
here are the emails I got from him:
发件人: "
收件人: [email protected]
发送日期: 2009/12/28 (周一) 7:42:00 上午
主 题: Re: 回复: 回复: Transformers Constructicon mosc Never Open (pics)
Since you did not believe that .Why then you do participate in the auction .You are waste the time. Some people leave 600$ .If you do not pay money ,Then I cancel the transaction .Thanks.
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Also I asked him for an individual pic and he sent me this one of hook which looks legit but is it really his? who knows… fallowing the rest of those KO posted above:
I then asked him this one looks Different in color and has the number on the bottom right unlike the KO others he sent me pics of.
He reply:
收件人: [email protected]
发送日期: 2009/12/28 (周一) 7:42:00 上午
主 题: Re: 回复: 回复: Transformers Constructicon mosc Never Open (pics)
hi,
looks like different picture then in auction is because Photograph angle and light.Thanks.
I CALL BS
I asked him about them being a KO and got this:
收件人: [email protected]
发送日期: 2009/12/28 (周一) 7:42:00 上午
主 题: Re: 回复: 回复: Transformers Constructicon mosc Never Open (pics)
hi
You see the thing which on the picture the thing is you can obtain.Thanks.
Since you participated in the auction,Then you should believe.
here is a reference to his auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120508540497&ssPageName=ADME:L:MAV:US:1123
Watch out for this guy People!!
joopsta
You're missing the point, my friend.
I am not trying to sell or support KO's or something here.
Only try to inform/warn everyone KO Defensor is coming out.
So do with it what you want.
Saw 6 carded KO constructicons go for 432 dollars yesterday.
Bought by someone who didn't know these are KO's.
That's why I post this info. To avoid people being tricked.
No more or less.
But I understand you are trying to give your negative opinion on these KO's by saying they are bad quality?
You despise them, so you don't have them, so you can't tell anything about the quality.
BTW. My KO carded constructicons are on their way. Review shortly.
cromagnus
You wrote a review that says the limbs are loose and the plastic is the wrong color. What more do you want? a barrel that doesn't quite fit right? oh yea, it's got that too. At least be consistent.
grimlock1972
lovely just lovely these are gonna make finding legit ones on Ebay a real pain as sooner or later the less than honest people onthere will try to pass them off as legit
joopsta
Untrue.
I've compared the Shockwave with my original and I don't see any less quality in it than the original. These things are not like the one dollar KO's.
So beware if you buy loose TF's.
Reflector is also a high quality KO, very hard to tell any differences.
cromagnus
KO Defensor for $70? What a rip-off.
Vintage Transformers G1 protectobots defensor nr. cmplt – eBay (item 260526912843 end time Dec-22-09 12:09:16 PST)
Any patient, intelligent collector could easily get a vintage loose defensor for less. Even w/ metal chests. The sad truth is that every single chinese ko is of lesser quality than the original; particularly the newest chinese KO's. The only reason these are still being made is because of all the consumers who continue to support their efforts. i see no difference between this and pirating DVDs. It's stealing straight up. There is no way to argue that.
At least fans project and the like create an original product. It is completely different.
There is no substitute for quality.
bradforj
I have asked the seller if we can expect G2 or Scramble City colors. I would be all over those!
joopsta
Defensor is coming as well.
W/O box for now, MISB within a month.
info here
mrclean08
I remember seeing those at Gemco and Fedco stores when I was 9 years old. Seeing these images bring back great memories. I wouldn't mind picking up a set just to display in my home for memories sake, because I can't afford a set of AFA graded ones right now.
Bgrngod
To claim that Has/Tak has no intention of reissuing these figures is really an empty claim. You can't say for sure that they will never do so because in the future, if they do, all of these bootlegs sales would hurt future reissue sales. Even if they are wishy-washy on it when asked it's still always a future possibility. The saying "Never say never" was created for a reason.
It's their IP any way you look at it, which is why this kind of thing is illegal.
I have my own personal rules about what 3rd party stuff I will buy, and this type of KO is not on the list. I draw the line at the point where I think these may attempt to get passed off as legit. Regardless of whether or not the maker is saying they are KO's or not, somewhere, someone is going to try to pass them off as real and that bugs me.
To each his own really.
GetterDragun
Good point. Come to think of it, maybe I should by a stolen car too.
Oh wait, bad comparison, these knockoffs are being bought from the manufacturers and after all, you can't steal an idea…oh wait, you can and that's what these people are doing, stealing intellectual property.
But then again I guess you have determined that once Hasbro has made a certain profit, they no longer have rights to their intellectual property.
catz
I think they're still two completely different things….
Oracle_Aesir
I like how people are moaning about spending money on knock offs here, when those same people probably splash out alot of money on Fanproject stuff, which are unofficial toys in themselves
Nemesis_Dirge
here we go yet again…KO'S are EVIL!
folks this is simple…if you do not like them…shut up and do not buy them!
I however…like and support them…like on TV>..do not like the TV channel…do not watch it…
Foster
why didn't I think of that!